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March 4, 2010
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5:33 pm
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garyalanmiller:
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Hey there #sachat! Imagine finding you here! |
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5:34 pm
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garyalanmiller:
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Is the conversation about where *I* go from where *I* am now? #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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mikesevery:
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pretty cool. lots of #sachat tweeps at the 'top' RT@twilkcom If already logged into twitter it is literally 2 clicks (and abt 30 sec wait) |
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5:35 pm
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edcabellon:
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Yay! RT @slhealy: Oh my goodness, I will also be available and by a computer for my first #sachat in like three weeks! Score! |
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5:36 pm
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shillis:
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@slhealy looks like I'll actually be able to join today for the first time in multiple weeks too! #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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edcabellon:
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I think @cindykane can help. She is a Wiki-Queen! RT @shillis: anyone run a student organization wiki? #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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edcabellon:
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RT @jchan027: @KARupert @reyjunco Congrats on achieving #inboxzero! #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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Participating in #sachat from Chicago this week, then heading over to #tpe for the afternoon! |
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5:39 pm
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garyalanmiller:
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Slow #sachat day? |
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5:40 pm
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garyalanmiller:
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Oh yeah.... #naspa and #tpe... that explains it! #sachat. |
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5:46 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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First time joining the #sachat? Start here > http://bit.ly/9KGFdv |
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5:51 pm
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debrasanborn:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: First time joining the #sachat? Start here > http://bit.ly/9KGFdv |
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5:52 pm
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rkaplan13:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:53 pm
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JGinese23:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:54 pm
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jmayojr:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:54 pm
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JGinese23:
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Woo hoo! Here we go! #sachat time! |
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5:54 pm
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m1hamilton:
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please excuse my excessive tweeting over the next hour I will be at the #sachat
#sachat |
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5:55 pm
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jmayojr:
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RT @m1hamilton: please excuse my excessive tweeting over the next hour I will be at the #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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BeccaFick:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:56 pm
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kevincleary:
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Hey all! Inbetween interviews at #tpe so I can't stay, but will read the transcript later. #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Chat time :) #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@kevincleary Good luck! #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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bryan_koval:
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RT @m1hamilton: please excuse my excessive tweeting over the next hour I will be at the #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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jmayojr:
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@kevincleary good luck at #TPE #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @bryan_koval: RT @m1hamilton: please excuse my excessive tweeting over the next hour I will be at the #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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JenPaulin:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: First time joining the #sachat? Start here > http://bit.ly/9KGFdv |
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5:58 pm
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jmayojr:
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RT @JenPaulin: RT @The_SA_Blog: First time joining the #sachat? Start here > http://bit.ly/9KGFdv |
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5:58 pm
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JGinese23:
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#sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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KARupert:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:58 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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Join the #sachat Twibe group to find everyone who participates in #sachat: http://www.twibes.com/group/sachat |
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5:59 pm
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AndreaHart:
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me too! RT @m1hamilton: please excuse my excessive tweeting over the next hour I will be at the #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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kriscarr442:
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ready for #sachat ! |
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5:59 pm
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jmayojr:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: Join the #sachat Twibe group to find everyone who participates in #sachat: http://www.twibes.com/group/sachat |
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5:59 pm
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BeccaFick:
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My apologies in advance, I'll be participating in #sachat. @asarahwood is lurking here with me too :) |
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5:59 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@JGinese23 Trying to make #SAChat a trending topic? :) #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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princeje:
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Sorry I won't be in the daytime #sachat today, but I really need to pay attention in this class today. Catch you guys tonight! |
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5:59 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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Time for #sachat! |
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6:00 pm
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JGinese23:
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@bryan_koval yup! hahah #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@bryan_koval @jginese23 what if we all RT-ed that about 4 times? #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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jkilmer:
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Dear Tweeps - the clock as reached zero hour for #sachat, so please excuse my random comments and diatribes |
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6:01 pm
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jmayojr:
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@JGinese23 @bryan_koval I'm surprised it isn't a trending topic #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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m1hamilton:
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as for intro's i am Mike a reslifer from worcester, ma #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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JGinese23:
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@AndreaHart then I'd say #sachat is going to be a trending topic! |
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6:01 pm
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JenPaulin:
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Me three! RT @AndreaHart: me too! RT @m1hamilton: please excuse my excessive tweeting over the next hour I will be at the #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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KARupert:
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Seeing student appointments and #sachat in between... |
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6:01 pm
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jmayojr:
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I'm John a Community Director (reslife) in Pittsburgh PA #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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lvanlysal:
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Participating in #sachat for the next hour. I think this is a good read for all of us, considering the topic: http://bit.ly/cc4KrH |
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6:02 pm
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reyjunco:
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So sorry #sachat peeps, I'm beat... need to go get some rest. Still not 100%. Have a great chat! |
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6:02 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Officially welcoming everyone to this week's DAYTIME #sachat !!! Let's get our #sachat on! |
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6:02 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: New to the #sachat? Stand up and introduce yourself. |
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6:02 pm
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JGinese23:
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Joe Academic Advisors Boston, MA #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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jmayojr:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: MOD: New to the #sachat? Stand up and introduce yourself. |
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6:02 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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<--- Grad Student at IUP (SAHE), job hunter, practicum student at Pitt-Greensburg #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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AndreaHart:
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I'm Andrea, Student Activities Specialist (fun title right?) at the U of New Mexico! #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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jmayojr:
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@reyjunco feel better, we'll miss you! #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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JGinese23:
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feel better @reyjunco! #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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jkilmer:
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Good afternoon - Jason a Assoc Director Student Affairs #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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slhealy:
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I'm Shannon, grad student and reslifer! #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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pereirap80:
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I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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edcabellon:
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Hi #sachat! Tweeting from the Amtrak Acela 2160 :) How is everyone today? |
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6:03 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@lvanlysal I read this earlier, Liz . . . good idea passing it along. #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Brown_Melissa woot #SAHEIUP... I graduated two years ago from SAHE! #sachat |
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6:04 pm
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bryan_koval:
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Hi everyone! I'm Bryan . . . I work in Res Life at Penn State. #sachat |
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6:04 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@slhealy SHANNON! Whoo hoo! Welcome :) Are you #sachat -ing inbetween interviews?? #sachat |
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6:04 pm
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Geralyn5:
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hello all! #sachat |
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6:04 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Kristen, Student Activities, Binghamton, NY #sachat |
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6:04 pm
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pereirap80:
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@jmayojr so many IUP folks...I need to get some SHIP peeps on board #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@jmayojr Nice! #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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j5miller3:
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Hello! My name is Jackie. I am a grad student studying student affairs working in housing at GVSU. #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@pereirap80 One of my colleagues (@shaadthegod) did his undergrad at Ship. #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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shillis:
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Good afternoon all! Sara - Asst. Director, Student Activities, Pennsylvania College of Tech #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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jmayojr:
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@pereirap80 if you haven't noticed we're taking over student affairs, one area at a time, its our mission #worlddomination #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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Geralyn5:
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Geralyn Hall Director @ CNU #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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slhealy:
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@AndreaHart I know, I've been MIA for way too long... staff meeting during day chat, class during night chat. :( #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Hey - Robyn Kaplan, Program Coordinator at Fairfield University #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Becca, Greek Life and Leadership GA at Baldwin-Wallace College. grad student at Kent State University #sachat |
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6:06 pm
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pereirap80:
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@bryan_koval He was one of my RA's...didn't know he was on twitter. Tell him I said hi #sachat |
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6:06 pm
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garyalanmiller:
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Shows what I know, I thought #sachat was noon until 1pm and now I have to miss it. DOH! |
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6:06 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@bryan_koval ever since I started focusing on my career instead of my job i've been happier and more open to other opportunities #sachat |
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6:06 pm
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JenPaulin:
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Hi I'm Jen from BSC. I work in housing. #Sachat |
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6:06 pm
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m1hamilton:
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pretty good turnout for the start of naspa, and seems like a lot of new people! #sachat |
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6:06 pm
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jesstini85:
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Hello all. Jessica here - Student Life Coordinator/Asst. for Residential Education at Lycoming College #sachat |
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6:06 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@pereirap80 Follow him and tell him yourself! ;) #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@m1hamilton yeah! I was a bit worried it would be, like, just me... Tweeting to myself... #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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MalloryBower:
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@Brown_Melissa @jmayojr @pereirap80 I'm IUP SAHE, too. Taking over SA is right! #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @bryan_koval I started focusing on my career instead of my job i've been happier and more open to other opportunities #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@Geralyn5 PA represents! I'm a NYer but I've lived in PA for a while #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Geralyn5 you can still join our club, you're cool! #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jesstini85 hey girl! glad to see you get on the wagon! #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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pereirap80:
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@bryan_koval touche #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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#sachat Sarah from University of Northern Colorado, in Chicago for #tpe! |
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6:08 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@MalloryBower HEY! It's awesome we can do chat at the same time! #sachat |
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6:08 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@Brown_Melissa woot! In in VA now #sachat |
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6:08 pm
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jmayojr:
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@AndreaHart I'm following you now, so you'll always have someone to tweet to --> #warmfuzzies #sachat |
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6:08 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr thanks man! you're pretty cool yourself :) #sachat |
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6:08 pm
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edcabellon:
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Ed Cabellon, Director of the @BSCcampuscenter Bridgewater State College (MA) #SAchat |
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6:08 pm
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JGinese23:
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OK so shall we get into the topic? #sachat |
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6:09 pm
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slhealy:
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Has anyone ever done a map of where SA-chatters are? It seems heavily east coast concentrated! #sachat |
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6:09 pm
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m1hamilton:
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so good topic today, career decisions and moving on where are we starting? #sachat |
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6:09 pm
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jmayojr:
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@slhealy thats a good idea #sachat |
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6:09 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@slhealy so are the colleges/universities in the us :)
#sachat |
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6:09 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@slhealy It just might be because of the time- it's 11 a.m. for west coasters, that might be harder #sachat |
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6:09 pm
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JGinese23:
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@slhealy great idea! #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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jonsampson:
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Jon --reslifer from LA area #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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AndreaHart:
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was just about to type that :) RT @m1hamilton: @slhealy so are the colleges/universities in the us :) #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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slhealy:
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@m1hamilton True. I'm trying to rep for the midwest! #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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JGinese23:
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@Brown_Melissa good point...I wonder if there are more West Coasters on the PM chat then? #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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slhealy:
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@Brown_Melissa Ohhh, time zones. My worst enemy! That makes sense though! #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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kprentiss:
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@slhealy if everyone turned on geotagging in twitter during sachat we could do it. It does feel east coast, but so are the schools. #sachat |
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6:10 pm
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KARupert:
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time zones #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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jmayojr:
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@slhealy you know the midwest is everything from OH to CA, thats a huge area (-; #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@slhealy I was thinking that today too!! about the time zones!! lol #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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pereirap80:
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Opps...didn't intro myself. Pete here. I'm @ Tx A&M - San Antonio where I work in Campus Activities. Oh, & SHIP alum :) #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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kprentiss:
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@slhealy california, at least, is a little busy with protests this morning. #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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Chris Blackburn - Greek Life Director... Topic of the day? #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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KARupert:
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Isn't there a higher population of schools on the eastern side of the U.S. #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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jonsampson:
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@jmayojr @slhealy Hey now - we CA people don't claim the midwest :) #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@Brown_Melissa 10am for West Coast and 11am for Mountain time :) #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jesstini85 I hope you love it!! I know @shillis and I do!! #sachat |
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6:11 pm
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lvanlysal:
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I think we need a MOD prompt to get us going @The_SA_Blog #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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bryan_koval:
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Lately on #sachat there has been a lot about 1st time job searches . . . who else is checking out a midlevel upgrade? |
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6:12 pm
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rkaplan13:
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I think it's more concentrated - smaller area, more schools@KARupert #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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jchan027:
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Jason here. I oversee academic advising & leadership programs at a scholarship fund in DC. #sachat #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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edcabellon:
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@chrsblckbrn Welcome Chris! #SAchat |
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6:12 pm
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pereirap80:
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@kprentiss I turned on the geotagging #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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I will apologize to all my followers -- I'm about to blow up my tweets for #sachat! |
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6:12 pm
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jmayojr:
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@KARupert yes, i think the majority of schools are in the northeast PA to ME #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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KARupert:
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@rkaplan13 You are probably right, it just seems like we have so many schools in such a small area #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@sarahhcraddock Oh! oops on my times...I should know better- my BFF lives in Alaska #sachat |
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6:12 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@bryan_koval I would be about ready for that in a year! #sachat |
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6:13 pm
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pereirap80:
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@m1hamilton I think it's important to make sure you have & can articulate transferrable skills #sachat |
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6:13 pm
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slhealy:
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@jonsampson @jmayojr Don't even get me started on Midwest geography. :) #sachat |
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6:13 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@chrsblckbrn @the_sa_blog Career decision making. Where do I go from here? Join us 12-1 pm CST. Please share! #sachat |
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6:13 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@m1hamilton Meaning changing functional areas? #sachat |
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6:13 pm
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KARupert:
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@m1hamilton Make sure to know how to use your transferable skills and seel those in whatever area interests you #sachat |
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6:13 pm
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jmayojr:
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Me too! RT @pereirap80: @kprentiss I turned on the geotagging #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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lvanlysal:
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This is my 5th year in my position. I'm considering a search if my job doesn't evolve. also pursuing a doctoral degree. #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@Brown_Melissa yes. Like reslife to student activities or career services on a lateral position level. #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@bryan_koval I will probably be looking to do a mid-level search next year. lurking today out of curiosity. #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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tobiasblake:
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Where do you see yourself in 3years? 5yrs? in #studentaffairs #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@bryan_koval I am in some ways- I worked ft for 7 years before grad school in and out of SA- not looking for a trad entry level pos. #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@m1hamilton I would say get involved with those other areas. volunteer for things they are doing, shadow #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@m1hamilton Committees and collaborative projects can get you that transferable experience you need to switch functional area #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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jmayojr:
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@bryan_koval I'm looking to go up if possible, but a lateral move is just as good for this year #sachat |
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6:14 pm
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courtneysprague:
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if you know you want to change areas I think it's important to try and get involved in that area before and gain exposure #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Having transferable skills is important, but also learning more about the job of another area is too #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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jmayojr:
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I'm looking to relocate back to New England #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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slhealy:
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I was surprised that I didn't get any 3/5/10 year plan questions in #saplacement interviews. #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@bryan_koval Me! #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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pereirap80:
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RT @Geralyn5: @m1hamilton I would say get involved with those other areas. volunteer for things they are doing, shadow #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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JGinese23:
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@lvanlysal you bring up a good point! When should one pursue a PhD? or EdD? I see more director positions requiring PhDs...#overkill #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@AndreaHart I'm casually job searching for a mid-level position . . . I'm on a term limit and my current position ends next year. #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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courtneysprague:
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which can help with transferable skills and knowledge of the area as well #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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rkaplan13:
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From your experience, does it seem as though this is turning out to be a bad year to be searching based on school's hiring freezes? #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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jonsampson:
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RT @lvanlysal: Committees and collaborative projects can get you that transferable experience you need to switch areas #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Those transferable skills are key. #sachat |
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6:15 pm
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jkilmer:
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I think as you move up or around the mid-level arena you are more pointed in your searches and also less public about them...#sachat |
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6:16 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@m1hamilton That's also what I'm doing - moving to midlevel, but maybe a different f(x) area. #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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KARupert:
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@rkaplan13 Yes!! I went through the job search process from may-december and it was very rough #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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pereirap80:
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@JGinese23 it's definately becoming the nore for directors to have a EdD or PhD...I'm thinking about it now #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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slhealy:
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@rkaplan13 Doing interviews currently, a lot of positions are anticipated - based on if the current person finds a new job. #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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shillis:
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@slhealy I was surprised that I didn't get any 3/5/10 year plan questions #sachat I think bc there is such high turnover in entry level :( |
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6:16 pm
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jmayojr:
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@m1hamilton i think it depends on the size of the school too, those of use @ sm schools do a lot of multiarea work #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@rkaplan13 I think this year is a LOT better than what I saw last year. I mean, leaps and bounds better. #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jkilmer That's a good call. I'm open about looking, but I'm not just looking for anything. Very focused (task and geography). #sachat |
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6:16 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@rkaplan13 watching postings for the past 4 years . i think this years looks like it is going to be one of the better in openings #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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slhealy:
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@sarahhcraddock You just made the engineering and math nerd inside me smile with the "f(x)" abbreviation. #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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kriscarr442:
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I lost who said it, but what do y'all think about timing for went to pursue a PhD,EdD? #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@rkaplan13 but it still comes down to the number of quality candidates. #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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edcabellon:
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Make sure when you earn your Ph.D. or Ed.D. that you have enough complimentary experience, #SAchat |
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6:17 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@rkaplan13 depends on the functional area. Reslife can usually always hire. Our other areas are a little strapped. #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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JGinese23:
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@pereirap80 so are you seeing more positions then offering to pay for Phds then to keep director level emps around? #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@m1hamilton I feel as though it's been plentiful for Residential Life but not necessarily for mid level activities or leadership #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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lurking #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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@jmayojr: I agree -- small schools/multi area work load can help narrow down what you want to do long term #sachat |
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6:17 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@kriscarr442 I vote for when you're in a mid-level position. So you can get experience #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@sarahhcraddock agreed I was searching last year and it didn't seem as much was posted or hiring but looking at TPE there are more #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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jkilmer:
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@JGinese23: i think the PhD is becoming more popular like the Master's did 5+ years ago but I dont see many GA positions for PHD #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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jonsampson:
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@edcabellon how much experience would you say is complimentary? #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@kriscarr442 I'm in my first year of an Ed.D. program now . . . it made the best sense in my family life to start, so I did! #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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JGinese23:
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@pereirap80 or perhaps is it wrong to assume that an institution would support your pursuit of a Phd/EdD? #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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slhealy:
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@JeannetteMarie Glad you could make it! :) #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@kriscarr442 I want to pursue one eventually, but I'm not sure I'm ready to jump in again! I'm not quite 3 years out of my Masters. #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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m1hamilton:
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RT @edcabellon: Make sure when you earn your Ph.D. or Ed.D. that you have enough complimentary experience,
#sachat |
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6:18 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@edcabellon can you clarify what you mean by complimentary experience? #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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edcabellon:
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@kriscarr442 Get the degree after you've earned SA experience and you're ready to balance both work and school again. #SAchat |
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6:18 pm
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jmayojr:
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@chrsblckbrn it has helped me a lot #sachat |
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6:18 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @jonsampson: @edcabellon how much experience would you say is complimentary? #sachat good question! |
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6:18 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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@jmayojr: Plus if you want to be senior mgt one day -- you need a wide spectrum of experiences! #sachat |
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6:19 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jonsampson That depends :-) For me, someone with 5-10 yrs experience be minimum. Ask yourself why you want it. #SAchat |
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6:19 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@kriscarr442 I think it depends on ultimate career goals - I want to teach, so slightly earlier for me (hence why I'm in one now) #sachat |
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6:19 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@edcabellon Is a Phd or EdD judged the same, or is one better than another? #sachat |
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6:19 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@chrsblckbrn how do you accomplish that if you're already in a pretty narrow funtional area? #sachat |
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6:19 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr The small school thing does really help with getting the other exper. Thats how it was for me in PA #sachat |
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6:19 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@rkaplan13 I'd say there's some leadership, but not a whole lot - but I think that's just the field in general? #sachat |
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6:19 pm
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edcabellon:
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I see in young pros the eagerness to get that degree to "get it done", or b/c they feel they have to. #SAchat |
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6:19 pm
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briannemcd:
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Can I join? I'm an RA at Bridgewater State! #Sachat |
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6:20 pm
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m1hamilton:
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i have know a few people that have gone to school straight through to Ed.D and only have GA exp and hirers can be intimidate by ed. #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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BlackburnArea:
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RT @chrsblckbrn2010Chris Blackburn - Greek Life Director... Topic of the day? #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@jkilmer Good point. I'm doing doctoral program while working full-time. Big commitment. #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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JGinese23:
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@briannemcd WELCOME!! #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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jmayojr:
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@briannemcd welcome. I was an RA at BSC too! #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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jonsampson:
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@rkaplan13 @edcabellon I know a PhD is more valuable if you want to move to teaching. Not sure about #studentaffairs side #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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kriscarr442:
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In grad school I was told if you are interested, or bound for upper positions to be looking at PhD in 2-3years #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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edcabellon:
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From what I can gather, if you want to teach, go Ph.D, if you want to be a Senior SA pro, get the Ed.D. But others may think diff. #SAchat |
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6:20 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@m1hamilton There are some people in my program like that...it's definitely a challenge after getting the degree. #sachat |
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6:20 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@m1hamilton I can totally see that, back when I was on the interviewer end we wanted to see practical experience #sachat |
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6:21 pm
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tsand:
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#sachat I've been a Student Affairs web guy for 7 years. I've never once been bored. BIG reason, the Web is constantly evolving. |
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6:21 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@briannemcd yay!! Welcome :) #sachat |
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6:21 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@briannemcd Welcome1 #Sachat |
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6:21 pm
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debrasanborn:
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RT @edcabellon: Make sure when you earn your Ph.D. or Ed.D. that you have enough complimentary experience, #SAchat |
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6:21 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@lvanlysal Yeah, I'm full time professional and part time student #sachat |
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6:21 pm
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KARupert:
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I was told 4 years exp is great to start a PhD program, b/c you are still gaining functional experience throughout the program #sachat |
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6:21 pm
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lvanlysal:
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The PhD/EdD argument can go on forever. I say get the one you want. Impressions vary among institutions/departments. #sachat |
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6:21 pm
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JGinese23:
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so regarding the PhD or EdD what about getting a second masters? I have my MBA but would love a Masters of Ed Tech for instance. #sachat |
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6:21 pm
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pereirap80:
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@m1hamilton IMHO, it's silly to go str8 for a doctoral degree w/out the exp. Awesome, you know theories but how do you apply them? #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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edcabellon:
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For sure: if you want to be a Senior #studentaffairs officer, you will need your terminal degree. #SAchat |
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6:22 pm
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debrasanborn:
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RT @lvanlysal: I wrote up a post on the SA Blog about my choice to pursue a doctorate. You need to feel "the itch" http://bit.ly/aSEe8o #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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rkaplan13:
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I think the biggest question for new professionals is knowing when to take that first jump to a new job and if lateral is ok #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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jkilmer:
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Again it comes down to what you are able to balance in terms of working, class/PhD work, money, family, etc - HUGE commitment #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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pereirap80:
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@edcabellon that's the impression I am under. #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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rkaplan13:
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or is it appropriate to expect to move up in the field after 2 or 3 years of entry level experience #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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@courtneysprague Volunteer to assist other offices! I help with Student Life, Comm. Service, Career Services, and program with them #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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jmayojr:
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when i was a grad my prog was 1/2 PhD and 1/2 EdD, to me there wasn't much of a difference, I learned a lot from each #sachat |
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6:22 pm
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jenontheblock:
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In higher education, it is the PhD that matters... #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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jmayojr:
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the EdDs had more "real world" experience and the PhDs had more research #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@JGinese23 I'm in the Higher Ed Admin cohort program at GWU (http://gsehd.gwu.edu/hea) #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@rkaplan13 I agree #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@jenontheblock Hey Jen! #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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@courtneysprague It gives exp. you can put on your resume and things you can talk about! Even if they aren't your direct duties! #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@chrsblckbrn Thanks I've tried doing it, our university is small and silioed so working on getting into it #sachat |
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6:23 pm
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edcabellon:
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@tobiasblake Not they have enough experience to base any research on. If your goal is to be a Director, you don't need it. #SAchat |
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6:23 pm
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JGinese23:
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@bryan_koval I was just looking at that one! #sachat |
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6:24 pm
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JGinese23:
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@jenontheblock so wait a PhD with 5-10 yrs exp would trump a Masters with 10-15 yrs exp? on paper anyways #sachat |
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6:24 pm
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JenPaulin:
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@briannemcd Welcome Bri! Good to see you on #sachat! |
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6:24 pm
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m1hamilton:
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RT @rkaplan13:I think the biggest question 4 new professionals is knowing when 2 take that first jump to a new job and if lateral ok #sachat |
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6:24 pm
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debrasanborn:
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RT @edcabellon: For sure: if you want to be a Senior #studentaffairs officer, you will need your terminal degree. #SAchat |
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6:24 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@rkaplan13 I agree what is better 1, 2, 3 years and when is it acceptable to change insitutions? #sachat |
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6:24 pm
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briannemcd:
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would moving laterally be okay- especially in different offices! it just broadens your experiences! #sachat! |
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6:24 pm
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edcabellon:
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I know I want my Ed.D someday, but with a young family, I'm choosing to wait. It's just a matter of time before I get it :-) #SAchat |
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6:24 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@owendrew Interesting, but I've always felt I learn more from doing than reading, so I wouldn't take non-degree courses. just me. #sachat |
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6:24 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@lvanlysal We just have so many people who want to move up, and so few positions that become open. It's tough. #sachat |
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6:25 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @lvanlysal I think 2-3 years is plenty to move up, if you're looking at small schools. Hard to move up in large schools #sachat |
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6:25 pm
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briannemcd:
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@JenPaulin haha I saw you and Ed were on! I don't know what I'm doing but it's interesting! #sachat |
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6:25 pm
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jchan027:
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RT @edcabellon For sure: If you want to be a senior #studentaffairs officer, you will need your terminal degree. #sachat #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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edcabellon:
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Advice: Stay in your current position for at least three years. Give you and your institution the chance to grow together. #SAchat |
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6:26 pm
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jenontheblock:
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Agreed... Volunteer/practicim with other offices to get other kinds of experiences (even as a professional! I've seen this work!) #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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m1hamilton:
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i think that it has to be said that you cant expect to move up in 2-3 years tho. sometimes there just arent the jobs available. #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@slhealy Glad to help! Functional is just too much work to type :) #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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jmayojr:
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@edcabellon thats the same thing I'm doing... I'm going to wait a while mainly for family reasons #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Do you have to get a position at another college in order to move up typically? #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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edcabellon:
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@briannemcd Hello Brianne :-) Ready for your spring break? How's BSC been while I've been gone? #bsclife #SAchat |
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6:26 pm
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jkilmer:
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@courtneysprague there is no acceptable time. I ask myself: do I enjoy what i do, am i continuing to make a difference. then decide #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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AndreaHart:
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RT @edcabellon: Advice: Stay in your current position for at least 3 years. Give you + your institution the chance to grow together #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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pereirap80:
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@edcabellon Me too...I'm just starting mine. #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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Geralyn5:
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I made a laterial move but the position responibilities were different and the school was different #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @edcabellon: Advice: Stay in your current position for at least three years. #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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jmayojr:
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@m1hamilton thats true #sachat |
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6:26 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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AGREED! Or just sheer luck! RT @edcabellon If you want to be a senior #studentaffairs officer, you will need your terminal degree. #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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JGinese23:
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@edcabellon what if your institution isn't focused on developing you and has other priorities (i.e. budget, staffing, etc)? #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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shillis:
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In entry level, I was 18-24 months at job Makes changes when they make sense. Look for ops that benefit #sachat @courtneysprague @rkaplan13 |
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6:27 pm
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slhealy:
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RT @edcabellon: Stay in your current position for at least 3 years. Give you and your institution the chance to grow together. #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@Brown_Melissa sometimes it helps to make a lateral move to get new experience. #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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JGinese23:
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hahah which is NOT my situation - just to clarify #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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briannemcd:
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@m1hamilton hi! I remember you from BSC! #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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shillis:
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RT @jkilmer: @courtneysprague there is no acceptable time. I ask myself: do I enjoy what i do, am i continuing to make a difference. then decide #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@lvanlysal Same here. All of our central staff folks are 5+ years with the department (most are 10+) #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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jenontheblock:
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@JGinese23 i'veseen some positions here call for a PhD as the only qualification, when the position should have called for an MA #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@KARupert if its not a good fit, that is a good reason to move on for me. #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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lynnellison:
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Hello, all! Joining #sachat late from the TPE Employer Workroom. |
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6:27 pm
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jkilmer:
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@lvanlysal @bryan_koval yup. Folks here will stay in a director job for 20-30 years. Not uncommon at all. #sachat - same here #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@briannemcd and i remember you, and your brother. #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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pereirap80:
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@KARupert You should get exps in the other areas your interested then. Via volunteering, committees, etc #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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courtneysprague:
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I decided to get an MBA after my MS and then go for the Ph.D. but i feel the MBA will help with more senior level decisions #sachat |
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6:27 pm
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Geralyn5:
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develop yourself! RT @JGinese23: what if your institution isn't focused on developing you and has other priorities #sachat |
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6:28 pm
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edcabellon:
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@JGinese23 Its on you to create/manufacture those opportunities. Use those perseverence stories in your future interviews. #SAchat |
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6:28 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@Brown_Melissa I'd say unless you're willing to switch functional areas, yes. But there are always exceptions. #sachat |
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6:28 pm
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shillis:
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back to lurking on #sachat Afternoon full of meetings before Spring Break! |
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6:28 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Any advice on how to navigate the politics when the institution and supervisors make it difficult for that to happen@edcabellon #sachat |
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6:28 pm
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jenontheblock:
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RT @jkilmer: @lvanlysal @bryan_koval yup. Folks here will stay in a director job for 20-30 years. Not uncommon at all. #sachat - same here #sachat |
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6:28 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@geralyn5 good question #sachat |
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6:28 pm
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JGinese23:
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@Geralyn5 @edcabellon good points - again wasn't speaking about myself but have heard of that situation in the past with other peers #sachat |
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6:28 pm
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johnsilveria:
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Advice- time in post may not matter, but having 3-4 identifiable accomplishments in whatever time period you are there will #sachat |
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6:29 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@lynnellison There are some great candidates from BGSU at TPE #sachat |
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6:29 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@shillis we are on break now... #sachat |
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6:29 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@edcabellon Having trouble creating opps for pro dev here. Blocked by admin at every turn. :( #sachat |
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6:29 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @johnsilveria: time in post may not matter, but having 3-4 identifiable accomp in whatever time period you are there will #sachat |
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6:29 pm
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JenPaulin:
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RT @johnsilveria: Advice- time in post may not matter, but having 3-4 identifiable accomplishments in whatever time period you are there will #sachat |
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6:29 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Geralyn5 we are too, only two days left #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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sethhagler:
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Hi #sachat folks! I'm boarding my flight out of NYC from #ACUI2010. Great to meet some of you this week! |
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6:30 pm
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m1hamilton:
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RT @johnsilveria: Advice- time in post may not matter, but having 3-4 identifiable accomps in whatever time period you are ther will #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@johnsilveria and good stories to tell during interviews about them, don't rely on the resume page #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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jmayojr:
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@JeannetteMarie I"m getting that too #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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lvanlysal:
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Do your supervisors help you with these decisions? Mine has very purposeful discussions w/ me about my career path, needed exp, etc #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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jenontheblock:
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Time in the position is not as important as what you learned - good and bad - from the experience. #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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pereirap80:
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@JeannetteMarie Thank goodness for #sachat then! |
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6:30 pm
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johnsilveria:
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@courtneysprague good call, did the same and it opened up doors and made me think differently as a #highered professional #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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shillis:
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@geralyn5 we are next week, but I am taking students on ASB for Habitat build in SC. Wishing I had that week in the office! #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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eventRobot:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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6:30 pm
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jkilmer:
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I disagree with 3 year. That may be good for the first job out of UG but after that it can be 1 year or 10 depending on circumstance #sachat |
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6:30 pm
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jchan027:
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Question: What would you all look for in candidate w/ #studentaffairs M.Ed. but work exp. is in nonprofit/education sector? #sachat #sachat |
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6:31 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@lvanlysal My supervisors have always been supportive. Help me prepare, offer to be references. #sachat |
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6:31 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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Do you think the "millinial" mindset affects people staying in jobs for shorter periods of time? #sachat |
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6:31 pm
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edcabellon:
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@JeannetteMarie It seems to me you're taking advantage of this pro dev here :-) Try not to let it get you down Easier said, I know.. #SAchat |
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6:31 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@johnsilveria good to see you on here! saw the Orientation postion listed I was temped to apply! #sachat |
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6:31 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@shillis I've done that, trust me, its really great face time with students in a situation ripe with teachable moments! #sachat |
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6:31 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @chrsblckbrn: Do you think the "millinial" mindset affects people staying in jobs for shorter periods of time? #sachat good ? |
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6:31 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jchan027 Related experience. The cover letter might be crucial for that type of applicant to demonstrate connections. #sachat |
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6:31 pm
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shillis:
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@lvanlysal I've always had great supervisors that encouraged prof dev and career benefitting opportunities. great thing about SA #sachat |
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6:32 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jchan027 For me, its about transferrable experience and fit. I can mentor/teach the rest. :-) #SAchat |
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6:32 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@chrsblckbrn I think so, my cohort has already started thinking about switching and how long they have to stay in a position #sachat |
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6:32 pm
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briannemcd:
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@shillis I'm going on ASB with Habitat! To SC-Myrtle Beach! We leave Sunday! #SAchat |
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6:32 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@jchan027 I'd look for supervision skills, project management, relationship building, vision, etc. #sachat |
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6:32 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@lvanlysal mine have been awesome helping me develop and giving me opp. to grow #sachat |
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6:32 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@chrsblckbrn I think there is much less institutional loyalty than there has been in past generations. Thats across all industries. #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@shillis thats right!! Have so much fun!! #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@chrsblckbrn and we only graduated last year #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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slhealy:
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@chrsblckbrn My cohort (all Millenials) is mostly just worried about finding a job we like... not where to go in another 2 years. #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@shillis I will try and call you soon :) #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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jmayojr:
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@lvanlysal with mine it depends on the day #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@edcabellon Thanks for the encouragement. Really looking forward to some pro dev at #ACPA10 #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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shillis:
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@briannemcd Awesome! We'll be in Myrtle Beach Sunday. Working with Marion, SC Habitat chapter #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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timstjohn:
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@courtneysprague I know, it is odd to me that many of them are switching after a year or 2 #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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danielwmurphy:
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@lvanlysal @shillis I do now. But haven't always been so lucky. I think sometimes SA pros forget responsibility to mentor young pros #sachat |
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6:33 pm
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edcabellon:
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@AndreaHart Agreed, which is why loyalty is an even more valuable characteristic to have today. #SAchat |
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6:34 pm
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jkilmer:
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#sachat - here is a question or two: When is the right time to be public about a job search? Should supervisor always be involved? #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@jchan027 Good question- I'm in a similar situation- have many years in non-profit #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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Geralyn5:
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As a millemial I am not looking to leave, but looking to see what is out there. #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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edcabellon:
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@JeannetteMarie If it's anything like meeting folks at #ACUI2010, it will be a blast. Right @debrasanborn? #SAchat |
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6:34 pm
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changeiseternal:
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@slhealy really? I got those questions a lot during my 2nd round interviews. Makes me nervous bc my plans r not concrete at all #sachat. |
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6:34 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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@AndreaHart I agree!!! #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@timstjohn I thought it was just me, but even that a few still haven't found a studentaffairs job, sad #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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JenPaulin:
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@lvanlysal It depends. I look to my mentors for advice & planning & then work with my supervisor to find the opportunities I want. #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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timstjohn:
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I apologize for being late....how long is too long to stay in one position? #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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tobiasblake:
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RT @Geralyn5: As a millemial I am not looking to leave, but looking to see what is out there. #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@edcabellon it does make me feel a bit weird to go into year 4 in my 1st position when several in my cohort have moved already! #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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cleders:
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At #TPE and taking a break between interviews to participate in #sachat! :) What is the topic?
#sachat |
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6:34 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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@jchan027 the ability to articulate those trnsfrble skills with out being prompted make it explicit in resume CL and at intervw #SACHAT |
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6:34 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@kriscarr442 Interesting! I would be intentional about getting feedback from them, being open with them when you are jobsearching. #sachat |
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6:34 pm
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MalloryBower:
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@danielwmurphy Agreed. It is easy to feel lost as a new professional. #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Saw a position I would love posted. But requires a move that I can't do until 2011 :/ Ugh! #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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edcabellon:
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@Geralyn5 That's fair, you should always keep your options open. #SAchat |
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6:35 pm
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shillis:
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@geralyn5 I know! Much needed catchup :) Hopefully I'll see you Memorial Day weekend #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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slhealy:
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@changeiseternal I only got one "where after here" question, didn't hear much about future from other grads I was at OPE with. #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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jmayojr:
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@HFIELDS33 hey my friend #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jkilmer I would always keep my supervisor in the loop, but that's the culture of our department. No fear about doing it. #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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tsand:
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Silly question. How the hell do you tell what the OFFICIAL QUESTION for the #sachat is? Are there no official questions? Q1: |
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6:35 pm
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JGinese23:
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When it comes to searching and experience - better to centralize on one aspect or try to bounce around? Activities, Reslife, acdmic? #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@jkilmer I always tell my supervisor. but we have a fantastic. Bigger effect is on coworkers who think you're not committed #sachat |
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6:35 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@shillis are you going to be in biltown? #sachat |
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6:36 pm
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edcabellon:
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@AndreaHart You've positioned yourself much better. I'd rather meet a pro with 1 job-4yrs exp, than a pro with 2-3 jobs-4yrs exp. #SAchat |
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6:36 pm
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courtneysprague:
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do you think new professionals have to be less picky about what their looking for in order to secure a job during this time? #sachat |
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6:36 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@timstjohn when opportunity for growth & advancement have passed you by more than 2x or you've gone as far as you can and want more #sachat |
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6:36 pm
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jenontheblock:
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Don't discount the ability to sell yourself, both on paper (cover letter) and in an interview! #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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jkilmer:
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@lvanlysal and THAT is the issues i have seen - supervisor will support - colleagues question commitment and follow through concerns #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @edcabellon U've positioned yourself much better. I'd rather meet a pro w1 job-4yrs exp, than a pro w2-3 jobs-4yrs exp. #SAchat #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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shillis:
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@geralyn5 I think so! Looks like I don't leave for Texas until June 2, so I can stay the week after #naca HLW with my fam. #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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@jmayojr whts up? some student from #IUPSAHE came up to visit on monday for WNYPE #SACHAT |
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6:37 pm
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donnyjenkins:
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I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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kprentiss:
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@tsand it's a very friendly democracy. we vote when you're not paying attention, and then that determines what you can and cannot do #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@courtneysprague I think as a new pro you can learn and grow at any EL position. Its what you make of it #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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MalloryBower:
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@courtneysprague you can be picky about job details if you're willing to relocate #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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timstjohn:
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Another great article about @edcabellon and his presentation to UNE Student Leaders in the Nor'Easter News today! #sachat |
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6:37 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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RT @JeannetteMarie: @timstjohn when opportunity for growth & advancement have passed you by more than 2x or you've gone as far as you can and want more #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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jmayojr:
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@HFIELDS33 thats great, I love seeing #IUPSAHE students looking for jobs #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@courtneysprague Depending on their sense of urgency. Geography is probably the criteria to be most flexible about. #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Im building a lot of diverse exp as a grad, how long before it expires and I need to regain those exp? #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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jkilmer:
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@lvanlysal I have also seen it the other way around too where the colleagues are supportive but supervisor questions commitment #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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JenPaulin:
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@jkilmer There is a point when they need to know, but depending on why you're searching that might be later in the process. #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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timstjohn:
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sorry did not mean for my last tweet to have #sachat tag on it, but nonetheless, kudos to @edcabellon! |
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6:38 pm
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jmayojr:
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RT @Geralyn5: @courtneysprague I think as a new pro you can learn and grow at any EL position. Its what you make of it #sachat |
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6:38 pm
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mikesevery:
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agreed RT@JGinese23 RT @edcabellon U've positioned yourself better. rather meet pro w1 job-4yrs exp, than pro w2-3 jobs-4yrs exp. #SAchat |
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6:39 pm
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lvanlysal:
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gotta head out to do some interviews. Thanks #sachat! Always a pleasure. |
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6:39 pm
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edcabellon:
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@courtneysprague YES. Get you're foot in the door and build your experiences. You can't get too picky in your first job. #SAchat |
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6:39 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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#sachat i think the biggest takeaway for me this year having searched was know what you can and cannot compromise on. |
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6:39 pm
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briannemcd:
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just keep challenging yourself in any position! #sachat |
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6:39 pm
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lvanlysal:
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@jkilmer I only tell trusted colleagues, but know eventually word will get out. definitely don't let student employees know. #sachat |
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6:39 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@BeccaFick don't think about it as "expiration", continue to update it in your prof. position. Volunteer in other func. areas #sachat |
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6:39 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@JenPaulin @jkilmer I have seen the co-worker effect most evident on internal processes. It can get tough! #sachat |
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6:39 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Aw, I want an interview with @lvanlysal #sachat |
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6:39 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@jmayojr & @MalloryBower Thanks! #sachat |
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6:39 pm
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edcabellon:
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@timstjohn Thanks Tim! IT was great seeing UNE at the #ACUI2010 conf. Make sure you come to Chicago next year :-) #SAchat |
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6:40 pm
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jmayojr:
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in grad school I was told... you can do anything for 2 or 3 years.... it's so true #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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edcabellon:
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@briannemcd How did it go? #bsclife #SAchat |
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6:40 pm
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slhealy:
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[Ditto, just to meet her in person!] RT @JeannetteMarie: Aw, I want an interview with @lvanlysal #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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@courtneysprague ealistic would be a bttr word choice Fit & mtchng with my philosophy were important other ppls values may b dffrnt #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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jchan027:
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@bryan_koval @hfields33 Yes, resume/cover letter seem key - need to be able to secure interview, so one has opportunity to elaborate #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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Geralyn5:
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RT @jmayojr: in grad school I was told... you can do anything for 2 or 3 years.... it's so true #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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kriscarr442:
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I've seen the issue of other dept/areas being suspicious of you trying to volunteer with them #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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timstjohn:
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@courtneysprague Great to see you on #sachat! We need to get more of our fellow Huskies on here as they would truly benefit |
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6:40 pm
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MalloryBower:
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@jmayojr I always hated that! But find myself saying it to others! #sachat |
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6:40 pm
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JGinese23:
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Is a second masters pointless? and should one just make the jump for Phd/Edd instead? #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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timstjohn:
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RT @m1hamilton: what would hirers out there say is the best transferable skill to have/market. #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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edcabellon:
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@donnyjenkins Career Deicision Making: Where Do I Go From Here? #sachat #topic #SAchat |
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6:41 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@m1hamilton I think facilitation skills are important -whether to students, colleagues, or superiors #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jchan027 Get that foot in the door! #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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jmayojr:
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@MalloryBower I've said it to 3 students this week #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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JGinese23:
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As an entry level professional - how many pages can a resume be? Is 2 ok? 3? 4 too much?? #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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jmayojr:
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@MalloryBower thank you Dr. Belch #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@timstjohn agreed! Looking to get more people together the weekend of ACPA if you're around or want to come down we can mention it! #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@JGinese23 second masters in what? #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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jchan027:
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@Brown_Melissa Yay - a fellow nonprofit person! Where do you work? #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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slhealy:
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I was asked a lot in interviews about information I had put in my cover letter. (tying together Career Services and Res Life) #sachat |
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6:41 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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#sachat #tpe I'd like to organize a tweetup during TPE - is anyone interested? |
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6:41 pm
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tsand:
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@lvanlysal I understand the topic. But jumping into the #sachat search stream mid conversation is confusing. Labeled Qs could help. |
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6:41 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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RT @jmayojr in grad school I was told..you can do anything for 2 or 3 years... it's so true #sachat - I knw who tld u tht she said same 2 me |
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6:42 pm
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briannemcd:
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@edcabellon it went well. Tony got a video on my FB. I enjoyed the opportunity! #bsclife #sachat A very good experience to have! |
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6:42 pm
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edcabellon:
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@JGinese23 As a graduating Graduate Student, no more than 2 pages of content with a supplement page for your resume. #SAchat |
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6:42 pm
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jmayojr:
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@JGinese23 I keep mine at 2... when i think 3 I think mid level and 4 senior #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@JGinese23 i have always been told 2 #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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JGinese23:
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@JeannetteMarie just in theory - I have an MBA but there are a lot of things out there that I'd love to learn more about. Tech Ed? #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@jmayojr @MalloryBower ROFL- Citing professors.... #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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edcabellon:
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@briannemcd Awesome to hear, sorry I had to miss it! #bsclife #SAchat |
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6:42 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@jginese23 as a new pro with MA i struggle to keep it to 2 pages, but I do, if you go to 3, needs to not be filler #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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slhealy:
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@JGinese23 I worked in Career Services last year and we usually told grads 2 pages, 3 if you also put references/info on 3rd. #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Brown_Melissa you should tell her ... she'll love it #sachat |
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6:42 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@jchan027 I worked in youth ministry for 4 1/2 years before the career switch to SA. U? #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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JGinese23:
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@m1hamilton what about if you've been in the field for 1 - 4 years? like for mid-level whats standard? still 2? #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@timstjohn yes! I can reach out to the professional development chair? or the news letter do they even still do that? #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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briannemcd:
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@edcabellon what skills as an undergrad should I highlight the most as I begin to job search/interview? #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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JGinese23:
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basically as you leave your first position after grad school - what is the page limit? #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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Geralyn5:
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RT @jmayojr: @JGinese23 I keep mine at 2. - agree. #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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I'm going to need a resume review ... mine is 4pgs #sachat |
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6:43 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@JGinese23 mine will be 3 pages when I leave this first prof. position due to the variety of experiences I have had here. #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @kriscarr442: as a new pro with MA i struggle to keep it to 2 pages, but I do, if you go to 3, needs to not be filler #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@JGinese23 I'm coming to the end of my 5th year, and mine is 3 full pages. I'm OK with that. #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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briannemcd:
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@slhealy is it okay as an undergrad to have 2 page plus 1 for references as an undergrad if ALL the experience is relevant? #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@JGinese23 I'm not an expert, but I could see a second masters being good in that situation. I have thought of instructional design #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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KARupert:
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What about if you have functional experience and transferable skills from a previous career? Should those stay on your resume? #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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courtneysprague:
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RT @JGinese23: basically as you leave your first position after grad school - what is the page limit? #sachat |
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6:44 pm
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edcabellon:
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@BeccaFick Every 3 years, if you haven't used those skills in current position, find ways to incorporate through various projects #SAchat |
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6:45 pm
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JGinese23:
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@JeannetteMarie exactly! another good one I've seen that intrigued me! #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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jmayojr:
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@briannemcd I had two pages when I graduated from BSC. We can chat if you want to see it #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@briannemcd 1 page for an undergrad. #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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m1hamilton:
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i am at end of year 3 and i keep it at 2. i find ways to cut it down. 4 mid levels i have see 3-n4 but depends on exp v fluff #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@KARupert yes! but you can higlight them as so rather than adding it all to work experience #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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JenPaulin:
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@JGinese23 Mine was 2 until I moved out of an entry level (RD) position #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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kriscarr442:
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with Resumes its important to not repeat skills from older jobs, and have them updated in current positions #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Geralyn5 @briannemcd just make sure it's not filler. Filler is the worst on a resume #sachat |
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6:45 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@KARupert To keep mine at 2 pages I just list those positions and the year. My professors haven't said to do it differently #sachat |
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6:46 pm
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jkilmer:
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@JGinese23: oops... i must be in the minority. I am in my 3rd institution and position with Bachelors and Masters and have 4 pages #sachat |
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6:46 pm
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pereirap80:
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Re: # of resume pages - remember that you can always create an eportfolio #sachat |
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6:46 pm
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edcabellon:
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@briannemcd Highlight: Organization, training, and leadership using stories of your experiences and what you learned. #SAchat |
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6:46 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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so much action on #sachat today that i can't even keep up! |
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6:46 pm
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johnsilveria:
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@KARupert yes- especially if you do not have much other exp. good mgrs. can read into your skills/exp. give the full pic. #sachat |
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6:46 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@briannemcd that was my resume length and it was beth moriarty approved. #sachat |
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6:46 pm
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JGinese23:
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@pereirap80 any suggested services for that? popular ones that are easy to use? #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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@jessicacriswell I hear that! #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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Geralyn5:
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RT @pereirap80: Re: # of resume pages - remember that you can always create an eportfolio #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jkilmer what is your time frame over those three institutions? #SAchat |
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6:47 pm
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jmayojr:
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@m1hamilton: @briannemcd he's right, make sure it's B'Mo approved #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Also, make sure your resume bullet points have most important info as first point listed per job #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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JGinese23:
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@jkilmer when I want to leave the position I'm in now - I could see mine being close to 4 #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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mikesevery:
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me too. coming in midstream has not helped RT @jessicacriswell: so much action on #sachat today that i can't even keep up! |
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6:47 pm
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briannemcd:
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@jmayojr I'd love to send mine over- I've had it looked over before but more constructive criticism would be great. #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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jmayojr:
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@m1hamilton: @briannemcd she's a great resource, she critiqued at mine a few weeks ago #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jchan027 You'd have to illustrate in an interview how you would navigate that as a new SA pro. I've seen it done b4! #SAchat |
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6:47 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Do institutions typically check references prior to a campus interview or an offer? #sachat |
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6:47 pm
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timstjohn:
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RT @kriscarr442: Also, make sure your resume bullet points have most important info as first point listed per job #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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JGinese23:
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Also, when resume writing - make sure the bullets that fit the job description are towards the top. #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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@kriscarr442 Great Tip! #SACHAT |
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6:48 pm
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briannemcd:
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@jmayojr B'Mo? #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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edcabellon:
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@kriscarr442 agreed, and most relavant/matching to job description. #SAchat |
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6:48 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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resumes are super tricky. organize well, put most important/proud things first. you have so little time to hook them! #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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jmayojr:
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@briannemcd send it over: jmayojr@gmail.com, always willing to help a BSC RA #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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courtneysprague:
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RT @kriscarr442 can't stress that enough! Also using action verbs from the job description in the bullets! #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@rkaplan13 all mine have been checked prior to an offer #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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JGinese23:
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@rkaplan13 i would say after a on campus interview. would they call before they even bring you on?? Good question... #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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jkilmer:
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@edcabellon 2003 - 2006 (and got MS) 2006-2009 and 2009-current... yes it is 3 years - inserting foot in mouth #sachat |
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6:48 pm
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jmayojr:
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@briannemcd the nickname that @m1hamilton and I had for her when we were RAs #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@rkaplan13 We tend to check after the on-campus, but before an offer. #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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#sachat highlight words used in the job description and make sure those words are in your resume and/or cover letter |
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6:49 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @courtneysprague: RT @kriscarr442 can't stress that enough! using action verbs from the job description in the bullets! #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @bryan_koval: @rkaplan13 We tend to check after the on-campus, but before an offer. #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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pereirap80:
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@JGinese23 I haven't transitioned my portfolio to an online version yet. @beccafick is doing it. I think she's using wordpress #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@rkaplan13 We did it prior to offering an on campus once, but usually after on campus. #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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I agree -- always keep a working copy for each job! RT @JGinese23: make sure the bullets that fit the job description are at top. #sachat |
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6:49 pm
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Geralyn5:
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RT @jessicacriswell: #sachat highlight words used in the job description and make sure those words are in your resume and/or cover letter |
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6:49 pm
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jkilmer:
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@edcabellon still followed my advice of making a difference, enjoying what i do, and still finding a challenge before I moved on #sachat |
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6:50 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Okay- this is my grand entrance to #sachat! @m1hamilton Hello from WPI!!!!! |
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6:50 pm
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mikesevery:
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We do both RT@rkaplan13 Do institutions typically check references prior to a campus interview or an offer? #sachat |
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6:50 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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RT: bryan_koval @rkaplan13 We tend to check after the on-campus, but before an offer. #sachat [Same here . . .] |
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6:50 pm
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kriscarr442:
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also, if you programmed an event with 6000 attendees, that is important, numbers are helpful to show your work #sachat |
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6:50 pm
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jkilmer:
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RT @bryan_koval @rkaplan13 We tend to check after the on-campus, but before an offer. CONSITENT WITH EVERWHERE I HAVE BEEN #sachat |
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6:50 pm
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JGinese23:
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@pereirap80 oh wow = didn't know wordpress did that @edcabellon tech wiz you are...any eportfolio services you encourage/rec? #sachat |
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6:50 pm
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AndreaHart:
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Question: So beyond PhDs, EdDs, and resumes: When do you know its time to move on definitively? #sachat |
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6:50 pm
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courtneysprague:
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I also like to try and incorporate the university of department's mission or values in Cover Letters to emphasize my interest #sachat |
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6:51 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jkilmer I would love to see your resume. I bet I could get it down to 3 pages #curious :-) #SAchat |
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6:51 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @kriscarr442:if you programmed an event with 6000 attendees, that is important, numbers are helpful to show your work #sachat |
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6:51 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@OO_Dave_O welcome to #sachat - did that entrance come with theme music? |
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6:51 pm
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m1hamilton:
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any advice for applicants that arent able to go to any of the placement conferences?
#sachat |
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6:51 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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RT @kriscarr442: also, if you programmed an event with 6000 attendees, that is important, numbers are helpful to show your work #sachat |
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6:51 pm
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JGinese23:
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@AndreaHart maybe when you realize there is no growth left for you and you feel that your time is done. Some say, "you just know" #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@courtneysprague Definitely agree with talking about inst mission in cover #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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#sachat something i did too- was organize all documents for each app into their own folder so you have a copy of exactly what was submitted |
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6:52 pm
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jmayojr:
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Woot, I just got a call for a phone interview, pre-screening before #ACPA10 #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @rkaplan13: @courtneysprague Definitely agree with talking about inst mission in cover #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@AndreaHart where you feel there is nothing else you can give or recieve #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@AndreaHart When you are doing it for the right reasons, not because of any conflict. #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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JGinese23:
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@jmayojr congrats! #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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edcabellon:
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Please make sure you spend time on a quality cover letter. It's what employers see first. :-) #SAchat |
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6:52 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@AndreaHart when there is nothing new for you and you have mastered your job. #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@AndreaHart When I've done the same task without major changes repeatedly;when they have the "going out to pasture talk" with you ;) #sachat |
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6:52 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr nice!! #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jmayojr Congrats! #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@m1hamilton Does placement have sufficient opportunities for those lookign for mid-level, or more entry? #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Speaking of resumes- Asst. Dir Career Center @ WPI. Hamilton didn't we review? LOL @m1hamilton #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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timstjohn:
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RT @edcabellon: Please make sure you spend time on a quality cover letter. It's what employers see first. :-) #SAchat #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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jchan027:
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@lvanlysal Thx! That's helpful to know. Can speak to all of those right now. =) #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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jmayojr:
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Hardest for me RT @edcabellon: Please make sure you spend time on a quality cover letter. It's what employers see first. :-) #SAchat #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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HFIELDS33:
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@AndreaHart Tht is oftn unique and personal . . .Your satisfaction in your position & opprtnts for meaningful growth may be indictrs #SACHAT |
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6:53 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@bryan_koval you just made me giggle. #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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jkilmer:
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@AndreaHart are you being challenged? are you still growing? have you had your legacy moment? do you enjoy it? all ?'s I ask #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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slhealy:
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@m1hamilton A good cover letter: show enthusiasm/personality that you can't be there in person to portray. Make them want to call. #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@m1hamilton use a spreadsheet, look at job descriptions, get help with a solid SA style cover letter #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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JenPaulin:
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Great idea or dept mission RT @JGinese23: RT @rkaplan13: @courtneysprague Definitely agree with talking about inst mission in cover #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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mikesevery:
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intrsting to see resume advice. give me something to get excited abt + make me want to call u. at that point I'm past your resume #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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AndreaHart:
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I SO agree! RT @edcabellon: Please make sure you spend time on a quality cover letter. Its what employers see first. :-) #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@jmayojr Go you~~ #sachat |
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6:53 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@rkaplan13 I think placement is usually very heavy on entry level, with a sprinkling of mid-level #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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jmayojr:
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@rkaplan13 I think it depends on the year #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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#sachat is there a tweetup planned for #acpa10? |
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6:54 pm
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emanonphoto:
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I'm seeing a lot of talk about resumes: Are there a good place to have an Stu. Aff. resume/CV reviewed? #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr me too! but it doesnt hurt to look at others and get ideas! #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@jkilmer really good advice! Thank you for those questions. #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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m1hamilton:
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Help me answerRT @rkaplan13: @m1hamilton Does placement have sufficient opportunities for those lookign for mid-level, or more entry #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@AndreaHart Since we have term limits our director takes us out to lunch before our last year and has that talk with us! #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@jmayojr Congrats! #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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JGinese23:
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@bryan_koval so where do you go for a mid-level? @rkaplan13 perhaps #sachat? hahaah |
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6:54 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@rkaplan13 What I've seen on placement the focus is really reslife and activities #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @emanonphoto: I'm seeing a lot of talk about resumes: Are there a good place to have an Stu. Aff. resume/CV reviewed? #sachat |
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6:54 pm
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briannemcd:
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@jmayojr I just sent it along! Thank you for your help! #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@bryan_koval term limits? explain please
#sachat |
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6:55 pm
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mikesevery:
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make sure your resume is clean though bc employers in this market can be super picky. don't give them a reason to pass you over. #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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pereirap80:
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@m1hamilton I think it depends on the year. The majority of the positions are entry level however #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Geralyn5 I bought a book (i heart books) for just resumes... "Knock 'Em Dead: Resumes" it was best seller on Amazon, very helpful #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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kriscarr442:
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for cover letters, i recommend finding a hired SA pro or VP and have them breakdown their CL format for you #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@emanonphoto yes, there is a group set up to review resumes! I cannot find the link!! Anyone? Liz? #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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jmayojr:
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@briannemcd You're welcome #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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@emanonphoto pass it around to professionals you know and respect. that was the best feedback i got! #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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Geralyn5:
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mid-level JS= networks and keeping up with others in your field. be in the know and on others radar #sachat |
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6:55 pm
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JGinese23:
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Only 5 minutes remaining to #sachat... |
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6:55 pm
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dmstockton:
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Sending positive thoughts and good vibes to all the #sachat interviewees here at #TPE |
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6:56 pm
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pereirap80:
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Placements are a ginormous buffet if your an entry level person looking for res life jobs #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@m1hamilton My position ends after 4 years (or a few more if you move around a little bit within the dept). After 4, out the door. #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@EdCabellon @JeannetteMarie Right!! #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@emanonphoto TPE did a student affairs professional resume review. @ ACPA you can visit the Lucy booth at placement for review #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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KARupert:
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Just shared #sachat and how it works with another advisor. She is intrigued. :-) |
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6:56 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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#sachat i am a detail oriented person, more than happy to help with anyones resumes! |
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6:56 pm
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rkaplan13:
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@dmstockton Agree - GOOD LUCK!!! #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @Geralyn5: mid-level JS= networks and keeping up with others in your field. be in the know and on others radar #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Hmm.. I can be sure to include #sachat in my cover letter along with 'hilarious' and 'fluent in sarcasm'. |
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6:56 pm
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courtneysprague:
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RT @dmstockton: Sending positive thoughts and good vibes to all the #sachat interviewees here at #TPE |
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6:56 pm
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timstjohn:
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@emanonphoto I still send mine to colleagues from grad school who work in Career Services or to other mentors #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr I have lots of resources if you ever want 'em - worked in Career for 2 yrs in PA #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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jmayojr:
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@Geralyn5 thats why I suggest getting involved in a local/regional org, like state-CPA or NASPA region #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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mikesevery:
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I'm willing to review resumes for ppl. I'm reviewing resumes for some folks through ACPA's new pro/grad commission. #sachat |
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6:56 pm
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jkilmer:
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RT @Geralyn5 mid-level JS= networks and keeping up with others in your field. be in the know and on others radar #sachat - my missing peice |
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6:57 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jkilmer Email it to me "edcabellon at gmail dot com" #SAchat |
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6:57 pm
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jchan027:
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@Brown_Melissa Cool! I did 3 years w/ an AmeriCorps org & 2.5 years most recently at a scholarship fund. SA grad program in b/w. #sachat |
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6:57 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Staff meeting in 3 minutes #sachat - Thank you! |
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6:57 pm
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Geralyn5:
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RT @jmayojr: @Geralyn5 thats why I suggest getting involved in a local/regional org, like state-CPA or NASPA region #sachat |
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6:57 pm
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kriscarr442:
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I don't work in Career but I love helping with resumes, I'd be glad to help out! #sachat |
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6:57 pm
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KARupert:
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@mikesevery I may take you up on that resume review. #sachat |
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6:57 pm
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jmayojr:
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Being conference co-chair for a state conference will get your name out there #PCPA #sachat |
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6:57 pm
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courtneysprague:
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I'm also willing to review Resumes/CL. Private message me for my email! #sachat |
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6:57 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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RT @dmstockton: Sending positive thoughts and good vibes to all the #sachat interviewees here at #TPE |
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6:57 pm
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WastusMaximus:
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@KARupert get them to drink the #sachat kool-aid! |
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6:58 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Safe travels for those going to Chicago #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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emanonphoto:
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@courtneysprague My problem is I can't afford to travel to any placement conferences. Job search is going on 2 years now #Sachat |
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6:58 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jmayojr @jdkoval agrees with that! #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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Ok, #sachat, time to head to McCormick Place. Good luck to interviewers and interviewees! |
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6:58 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr boo on missing that one :( #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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having just done placement/job search this past year, i can relate to all those searching. know you have + thoughts coming your way! #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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jkilmer:
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@mikesevery i hope you know the door you just opened #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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timstjohn:
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@courtneysprague someone I always trust reviewing my resume :-) #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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slhealy:
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Okay, I've got to head out and continue the job hunt, so in 3 years I'll have more to contribute to this topic. ;) #sachat |
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6:58 pm
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jmayojr:
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my Asst Dean just came in to my office and asked why i'm being anti-social, I had to explain I was being very social #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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MalloryBower:
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I've reviewed a few #sachat resumes. I'd be glad to look at more from a Career Services standpoint. |
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6:59 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@slhealy Good luck Shannon! #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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Geralyn5:
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RT @jmayojr: my Asst Dean just came in to my office and asked why i'm being anti-social, I had to explain I was being very social #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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edcabellon:
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@JGinese23 The wordpress platform is where I would start. If you have a lot to display, try http://issuu.com #SAchat |
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6:59 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@slhealy Good luck!!! #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@jmayojr I had an RA ask me that last week!! #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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m1hamilton:
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Final thought: If you've gotten to a point where you cannot find anything new to keep you interested, move on, even laterally #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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jmayojr:
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@slhealy good luck! #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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JGinese23:
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RT @edcabellon:The wordpress platform is where I would start. If you have a lot to display, try http://issuu.com #SAchat ThanksEd! #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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timstjohn:
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@jmayojr mine did the same last week and it resulted in an hour conversation about Twitter and it's benefits to #studentaffairs pros #sachat |
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6:59 pm
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courtneysprague:
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@timstjohn hah yes oh practicum class! I'd trust you as well! #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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BeccaFick:
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@jmayojr I did that too! I served as the grad elect member of OCPA this year #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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Geralyn5:
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good luck to all the job searchers out there!! #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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AndreaHart:
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I am also willing to review resumes! DM me for my e-mail addy. #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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mikesevery:
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I know. I'll be realistic abt my time. if ppl are searching now they should be done w/reviews RT @jkilmer ...the door you opened #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@Geralyn5 @jmayojr- there are 4 other people in the room with me...they haven't asked me yet but can see the screen #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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jmayojr:
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@BeccaFick I've been on the PCPA e-board since my first year of grad school, it has helped #sachat |
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7:00 pm
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jkilmer:
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RT @m1hamilton: If you've gotten to a point where you cannot find anything new to keep you interested, move on, even laterally #sachat. AMEN |
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7:00 pm
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edcabellon:
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@kprentiss I think its a great idea (using Q1, Q2, Q3) in tweets as we have future #sachats #SAchat |
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7:01 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Important skill to market: PROBLEM SOLVING! I hear that from everyone- corp.'s or stud. affairs. @timstjohn #sachat |
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7:01 pm
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emanonphoto:
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@timstjohn that is how I have gat the best feedback, but my job search is going on 2 years, I'm looking for any advice/help. #sachat |
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7:01 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Take 1 minute and share your final thoughts on this week's #sachat: http://bit.ly/8gqEU9 |
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7:01 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Pen Down, Head Up! DAYTIME #sachat is officially closing, but rest your fingers for the EVENING #sachat from 6-7pm CST |
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7:01 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@OO_Dave_O btw hi dave :)
#sachat |
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7:01 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Good time to mention the sachat resume review dropbox? I dont have the link handy. #sachat |
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7:01 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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big part of student affairs, #sachat, sharing the love and taking others up on resources. |
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7:02 pm
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JGinese23:
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Thanks Everyone! #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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jmayojr:
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Great chat today everyone, I'm sad I missed the last 3 weeks, but happy for today #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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edcabellon:
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Final thought: Trust your gut, build a strong support network both on and offline, and continue to create opportunities 4 urself! #SAchat |
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7:02 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@emanonphoto network in your chosen area, informational phone interviews, word of mouth. What do you feel is holding you back? #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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courtneysprague:
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RT @jessicacriswell: big part of student affairs, #sachat, sharing the love and taking others up on resources. |
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7:02 pm
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Geralyn5:
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see y'all tonight :) #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Joined Twitter today just to get involved in these chats - Thanks everyone! #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Great chat today! #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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rkaplan13:
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#sachat |
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7:02 pm
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edcabellon:
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@BeccaFick DM me about when you want to chat about your resume :-) #SAchat |
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7:02 pm
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bryan_koval:
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I learned: there is so much variation when it comes to moving on. be prepared. network. #sachat |
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7:02 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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#sachat |
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7:03 pm
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m1hamilton:
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@rkaplan13 keep coming back! #sachat |
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7:03 pm
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mikesevery:
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RT @m1hamilton: Final thought: If you've gotten to a point where you cannot find anything new to keep you interested, move on, even laterally #sachat |
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7:03 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Final Thought: Sometimes you have to find mentors (whether you know them yet or not) in areas outside of your immediage office #sachat |
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7:03 pm
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Geralyn5:
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final thought - NETWORK! its not what you know, its who you know!! #sachat |
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7:03 pm
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edcabellon:
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I won't be on tonight's #sachat. I'll be doing #familychat instead :-) I've missed my girls! |
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7:03 pm
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changeiseternal:
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RT @m1hamilton i thnk that it has to be said that you cant expct to move up in 2-3 years tho. smtmes there just rent the jobs avail. #sachat |
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7:03 pm
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kbaumann:
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@AndreaHart: What is #sachat? Just curious... Anything I can help with? Let me know! |
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7:03 pm
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lrogalski:
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I'm Laura! A grad student at central connecticut state university going for Student Dev. In Higher Education #sachat |
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7:03 pm
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jmayojr:
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RT @edcabellon Trust your gut build a strong support network both on & offline &continue to create opportunities 4 urself! #SAchat #sachat |
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7:04 pm
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mikesevery:
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be glad to do so send me a DM for email RT @KARupert: @mikesevery I may take you up on that resume review. #sachat |
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7:04 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@JGinese23 Let me know if you want to chat about GWU. #sachat |
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7:04 pm
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Geralyn5:
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@lrogalski hi Laura! welcome #sachat |
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7:04 pm
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jmayojr:
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Final Thought: It's been said: NETWORK! NETWORK! NETWORK! It will help #sachat |
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7:04 pm
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JGinese23:
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@bryan_koval thanks! definitely DM me your e-mail if you don't mind #sachat |
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7:04 pm
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jchan027:
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Wow, lots of activity on today's #sachat! Thx @bryan_koval @EdCabellon @lvanlysal @hfields33 & everyone else for the words of advice! |
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7:05 pm
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edcabellon:
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@KARupert I'm happy to help as well :-) #sachat |
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7:05 pm
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timstjohn:
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@lrogalski I have a current undergrad student leader applying to the CCSU grad program! advice for her? #sachat |
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7:05 pm
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bryan_koval:
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@jchan027 You're welcome! It's why #SAChat is one of my favorite things! |
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7:05 pm
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edcabellon:
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Hello @lrogalski :-) Welcome to #sachat, hope you had a nice trip home from #ACUI2010! Great seeing you! |
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7:05 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@kbaumann Check out this link: http://thesabloggers.org/2009/10/introduction-to-the-sachat-in-more-than-140-characters/ #sachat |
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7:06 pm
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kriscarr442:
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RT @rkaplan13 Final Thought: Sometimes you have to find mentors in areas outside of your immediage office #sachat |
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7:06 pm
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maggnolia42:
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#sachat I work in career services as well and would be willing to help with resumes/cover letters - direct message me for email #sachat |
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7:06 pm
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edcabellon:
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@jchan027 You're welcome, let me know I can help in any othe way! #sachat |
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7:06 pm
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jessicacriswell:
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i am always opening to helping others in student affairs. i think of it as paying it foward :) #sachat |
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7:06 pm
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m1hamilton:
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good chat today. fun to see you all!
#sachat |
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7:07 pm
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emanonphoto:
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@AndreaHart budget cuts, and hiring freezes. I've lost count of the number of positions that have been 'withdrawn and not filled' #sachat |
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7:07 pm
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jmayojr:
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Ok back to work in my empty spring break office... great chat everyone! #sachat |
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7:07 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Thanks for the chat, that was fast and furious and my first one! #sachat |
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7:07 pm
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JGinese23:
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awesome #sachat - rock on everyone enjoy the rest of the day! |
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7:08 pm
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AndreaHart:
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See you all later! I won't be at the evening chat but its been wonderful to connect, as usual :) Until next week's #sachat ciao! #sachat |
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7:08 pm
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rkaplan13:
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Students in a line outside - haha, thanks everyone -take care! #sachat |
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7:08 pm
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Geralyn5:
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well said! RT @jessicacriswell: i am always opening to helping others in student affairs. i think of it as paying it foward :) #sachat |
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7:08 pm
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JGinese23:
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perhaps for resumes it might be helpful to put volunteers who would review on the @the_SA_Blog with brief bios and contact info? #sachat |
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7:08 pm
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edcabellon:
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Agreed :-) RT @jessicacriswell: i am always opening to helping others in student affairs. i think of it as paying it foward :) #sachat |
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7:08 pm
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chrsblckbrn:
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I completely missed the last 20min of the chat... excited to catch up! #sachat |
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7:08 pm
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courtneysprague:
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Great use of social media, really enjoyed the #sachat today! adding it to my calendar as we speak! |
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7:09 pm
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JGinese23:
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now...back to the #inboxzero challenge #sachat |
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7:09 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@JGinese23 check out the google group: http://groups.google.com/group/sachat2010resume #sachat |
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7:09 pm
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Grategatsby:
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RT @JGinese23: perhaps for resumes it might be helpful to put volunteers who would review on the @the_SA_Blog with brief bios and contact info? #sachat |
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7:10 pm
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ericstoller:
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.@jessicacriswell Yes, check out all of the SA Meetups - http://bit.ly/9j7pm8 #sachat #acpa10 http://bit.ly/8XfK6n |
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7:10 pm
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MalloryBower:
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Was excited to see 4.5 IUP SAHE folks on #sachat today! -- @jesstini85, you are the .5 :-) |
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7:11 pm
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AndreaHart:
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Okay friends, I'm done clogging your twitterfeed until next week's #sachat off to have some lunch and prepare for an afternoon meeting! |
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7:12 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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@Grategatsby @JGinese23 I would be happy to help with a resume or two #sachat |
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7:13 pm
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timstjohn:
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RT @courtneysprague: Great use of social media, really enjoyed the #sachat today! adding it to my calendar as we speak! |
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7:13 pm
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BeccaFick:
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If anyone #sachat is thinking online credentials/resumes/etc check out my eportflio: http://beccafick.wordpress.com/ (in progress) |
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7:13 pm
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NJTallman:
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Personality...@m1hamilton: what would hirers out there say is the best transferable skill to have/market. #sachat |
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7:13 pm
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mikesevery:
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ditto. RT @jessicacriswell: i am always opening to helping others in student affairs. i think of it as paying it foward :) #sachat |
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7:14 pm
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JGinese23:
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@BeccaFick thanks! #sachat |
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7:14 pm
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tobiasblake:
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hrm.... RT @JGinese23: now...back to the #inboxzero challenge #sachat |
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7:15 pm
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NJTallman:
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Entry in my opinion @m1hamilton: Help me answerRT @rkaplan13: @m1hamilton Does placement have sufficient opportunities for thos #sachat |
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7:17 pm
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mikesevery:
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yes. we spend lots of time together. RT@NJTallman Personality @m1hamilton best transferable skill to have/market. #sachat |
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7:18 pm
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jkilmer:
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RT @mikesevery RT @jessicacriswell: i am always opening to helping others in student affairs. i think of it as paying it foward :) #sachat |
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7:25 pm
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jkilmer:
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@BeccaFick coursework on your eportfolio is intriguing: Why did you include it? Are you a Ph.D candidate & showing that coursework? #sachat |
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7:25 pm
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emanonphoto:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: MOD: Pen Down, Head Up! DAYTIME #sachat is officially closing, but rest your fingers for the EVENING #sachat from 6-7pm CST |
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7:26 pm
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jmayojr:
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@jkilmer @BeccaFick we had to do it in my MA program #IUPSAHE, but we kept it in-house #sachat |
