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Transcript from March 25, 2010 to March 26, 2010

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March 25, 2010
10:30 pm cindykane: RT @kristendom: New post on "webthink" and student affairs - enjoy!: http://kristendomtalkstech.blogspot.com/2010/03/webthink.html #sachat
10:54 pm The_SA_Blog: We are your #sachat professionals > Join us to discuss transitioning skills/exp between SA functional areas 6pm cst http://bit.ly/dzZzjh
10:56 pm cindykane: RT @The_SA_Blog: We are your #sachat professionals > Join us to discuss transitioning skills/exp between SA functional areas 6pm cst http://bit.ly/dzZzjh
10:56 pm arzemke: RT @The_SA_Blog: We are your #sachat professionals > Join us to discuss transitioning skills/exp between SA functional areas 6pm cst http://bit.ly/dzZzjh
11:01 pm cindykane: Hoping to lurk and learn on #sachat tonight... prepping for an hour of #studentaffairs discussion! Forgive the tweets, please!
11:01 pm debrasanborn: Tweetchat.com is another good client for following #sachat
11:02 pm KBHgal: Hope tonight's #sachat is as great as this afternoon's. I'm on date night with @thisguyjeff.
11:03 pm tomkrieglstein: Will be participating in #SAchat on the go.
11:03 pm JennaMagnuski: hey #sachat -ers!
11:04 pm BeccaFick: Lurking during #sachat tonight while I'm at our Greek Sing Dress Rehearsal. Also tallying Ke$ha references (1 so far) and Glee music :) (3!)
11:04 pm dfalletta: participating in tonight's SA Chat #sachat
11:04 pm dfalletta: Hey all! #sachat
11:04 pm edcabellon: Lurking on this evening's #SAchat. Headed to Stonehill Coll to meet with my Golf Team #coach
11:04 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Looks like our scheduled tweets are running on their own schedule tonight. Welcome, everyone! #sachat
11:05 pm NASPAtweets: @beccafick Tik Tok waiting for #sachat to start. =) #sachat
11:05 pm The_SA_Blog: First time joining the #SAchat? Start here > http://bit.ly/bp3SgS
11:05 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: If you're new to #sachat, stand up and introduce yourselves. We're friendly! Promise!
11:05 pm JamieDresher: Hi everyone. First #sachat in a long while!
11:05 pm jacksonj: Headed home. Going to miss #sachat.
11:06 pm Joangib: hey #sachat!
11:06 pm BeccaFick: NASPA just made a Ke$ha reference :) RT @NASPAtweets: @beccafick Tik Tok waiting for #sachat to start. =)
11:06 pm MichaelSCashman: Greetings fellow #sachat - ers
11:06 pm The_SA_Blog: @JamieDresher Welcome back, Jamie! Good to see you! #sachat
11:07 pm JennaMagnuski: here with @aludraeltanin, who's another #iupsahe person! #sachat
11:07 pm debrasanborn: Yo #sachat mites!
11:07 pm JamieDresher: @The_SA_Blog Good to be seen! #sachat
11:07 pm dfalletta: @JennaMagnuski Yay for #iupsahe!!! #sachat
11:07 pm JennaMagnuski: we both work in Housing and Dining Services, and are half-lurking through room selection! #sachat
11:08 pm JennaMagnuski: @dfalletta agreed! #sachat
11:08 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Quick recap of the early chat: Conversation centered on support needed for transitions #sachat
11:08 pm PetePereira: Lurking & learning on #sachat while I play with my daughter.
11:08 pm cholbrook357: Following #markmilliron's advice to be a rookie and will try to participate rather than lurk on #sachat!
11:09 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: So let's get this party started! If you remember, put the question number (Q1, Q2, etc) in your tweets to help us follow along #sachat
11:09 pm debrasanborn: @cholbrook357 Welcome! #sachat
11:10 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q1: What are the biggest challenges to transitioning between functional areas in student affairs? #sachat
11:10 pm frankmichael: i'm excited about this topic - espec. one whose experience thus far is particularly niche. #sachat
11:10 pm The_SA_Blog: @cholbrook357 Glad you're joining in! We won't bite. :) #sachat
11:10 pm willistj: @PetePereira tell her hi for me! Mine is sleeping (FINALLY) but about to wake up then go back to bed within the hour. #sachat dads rock!
11:10 pm cholbrook357: @DebraSanborn Thanks! #sachat
11:10 pm frankmichael: @the_sa_blog i'll take "not having the experience req'd" for $500. #sachat
11:11 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @frankmichael i'll take "not having the experience req'd" for $500. #sachat
11:11 pm JennaMagnuski: yes plz. RT @frankmichael: @the_sa_blog i'll take "not having the experience req'd" for $500. #sachat
11:11 pm arzemke: Hoping to learn more about taking that first step into an upper level #sachat
11:12 pm NASPAtweets: Q1: bad cycle: think we have to have done housing to know res life, but cant get in if haven't done before. #sachat #sachat
11:12 pm StacyLOliver: My challenge is marketing transferable skills. I have a skills-based resume, but am not sure how well it works. #sachat
11:12 pm dfalletta: Q1: Along with lack of experience....not having the time to build needed skills #sachat
11:12 pm JennaMagnuski: @StacyLOliver heyyyyyyyy #sachat
11:13 pm frankmichael: for a new professional - it's hard to find positions that seem willing to allow you to learn as you go. #sachat
11:13 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @NASPAtweets: Q1: bad cycle: think we have to have done housing to know res life, but cant get in if haven't done before. #sachat
11:13 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @StacyLOliver: My challenge is marketing transferable skills. I have a skills-based resume, but am not sure how well it works. #sachat
11:13 pm JennaMagnuski: me too. confusing sometimes to employers. RT @StacyLOliver: My challenge is marketing transf skills. I have a skills-based resume. #sachat
11:13 pm The_SA_Blog: @dfalletta Great point. How do you find time to build those skills? #sachat
11:13 pm arzemke: #sachat how do you get the skills needed to move up when your current position doesnt offer them?
11:13 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @dfalletta: Q1: Along with lack of experience....not having the time to build needed skills #sachat
11:13 pm NASPAtweets: @StacyLOliver Do func resumes get point across in the amount of time employers usually glance at resumes in ur experience? #sachat #sachat
11:13 pm frankmichael: @JennaMagnuski i'd love to see an example of a skills based resumé. i'm not sure what i'd call the way i org. mine. #sachat
11:13 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @arzemke: how do you get the skills needed to move up when your current position doesnt offer them? #sachat
11:14 pm dfalletta: @The_SA_Blog I think that finding time takes, in part, a supportive supervisor who will let you try new things #sachat
11:14 pm NASPAtweets: @arzemke really depends on school size. smaller institutions, easier to get collateral duties #sachat #sachat
11:14 pm debrasanborn: @arzemke Professional orgs, volunteer for committees, internships in other offices...great ways to add skill set #sachat
11:14 pm LaurieABerry: Q1 experience has to have a starting point. #sachat
11:14 pm StacyLOliver: @NASPAtweets I guess, to be clear, mine is sort of a hybrid. Chronological with skills-based info after my two recent positions. #sachat
11:14 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @dfalletta: I think that finding time takes, in part, a supportive supervisor who will let you try new thing #sachat
11:14 pm NASPAtweets: @arzemke professional associations are a great way. ;-) #sachat #sachat
11:15 pm dfalletta: It also depends on the institution. Some are more willing to "intermingle" than others #sachat
11:15 pm Joangib: RT The_SA_Blog: @dfalletta How do you find time to build those skills?- Find a way to bridge your area with a different one #sachat
11:15 pm dfalletta: professional assoc. are awesome, too. PCPA helped me a lot my first few years. #sachat
11:15 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q2: Sounds like a big challenge is getting experience. What are some ways you can find new experiences on your own campuses? #sachat
11:16 pm AScheerbaum: @arzemke Utilizing your colleagues knowledge and being honest about where your skills levels are lacking #sachat
11:16 pm NASPAtweets: @StacyLOliver I heart hybrids. #sachat #sachat
11:16 pm StacyLOliver: Q2: I volunteer for everything I can, even when no one has asked for volunteers. Pushy? Maybe. Helpful? Absolutely. #sachat
11:17 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum:Utilizing your colleagues knowledge and being honest about where your skills levels are lacking #sachat
11:17 pm dfalletta: Q2: Reach out to colleagues in other dept's on your campus. Someone this afternoon on #sachat mentioned buying lunch...great idea.
11:17 pm LaurieABerry: @frankmichael @JennaMagnuski I don't mind sharing my skills based resume. #sachat
11:17 pm JennaMagnuski: got another task...time to go. i'm sad that i can't #sachat. i'm in post-conference hangover
11:17 pm The_SA_Blog: @AScheerbaum Do you have conversations with supervisors about competencies and future goals? #sachat
11:17 pm debrasanborn: @The_SA_Blog Q2 Volunteer your expertise as a speaker/presenter for clubs, orgs, other offices... #sachat
11:17 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @dfalletta: Q2: Reach out to colleagues in other dept's on your campus. Someone this afternoon mentioned buying lunch... #sachat
11:17 pm willistj: Q2 attend interview presentations for on campus candidates in the other areas..good way to learn about a functional area. #sachat
11:18 pm AScheerbaum: Q2: I work at a fairly large institution, so finding opps to work with other depts is key! and also checking out HR classes #sachat
11:18 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @debrasanborn: @The_SA_Blog Q2 Volunteer your expertise as a speaker/presenter for clubs, orgs, other offices... #sachat
11:18 pm dfalletta: @JennaMagnuski Sorry to see you go. take care! #sachat
11:18 pm NASPAtweets: Q2 Sounds simple, but make it known to others on campus about what you are interested in learning. #sachat #sachat
11:18 pm frankmichael: I'm challenged because I work at a very silo'ed institution - finding experience outside my position was easier as a grad. #sachat
11:18 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Q2: I work at a fairly large inst. so finding opps to work with other depts is key, also checking out HR classes #sachat
11:19 pm OrchardKeeper: Q2: Volunteer; get on advisory committees for areas outside of area ... Make sure supervisor knows of your want to broaden exp. #sachat
11:19 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @NASPAtweets: Q2 Sounds simple, but make it known to others on campus about what you are interested in learning. #sachat
11:19 pm The_SA_Blog: @NASPAtweets Any recommendations for how to do that? #sachat
11:19 pm AScheerbaum: @The_SA_Blog Definitely! I make a point to start those convos & look for advice on where to go to supplement / build my skill set #sachat
11:19 pm cholbrook357: Definiitely ! RT @NASPAtweets: Q2 Sounds simple, but make it known to others on campus about what you are interested in learning. #sachat
11:19 pm willistj: q2 make friends in those other areas and you learn a lot..ex: Met @PetePereira who was in housing and I was in the union at Arizona. #sachat
11:19 pm Joangib: Q2- Link it to something your supvr wants to see too. Cross res life w/ intl stdnts- run an intl orientation to res halls. #sachat
11:19 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q3: Supervisor support is key. What kind of conversations are you having with supervisors about skills and future goals? #sachat
11:20 pm OrchardKeeper: RT @debrasanborn: @The_SA_Blog Q2 Volunteer your expertise as a speaker/presenter for clubs, orgs, other offices... #sachat
11:20 pm dfalletta: RT @OrchardKeeper: Q2: Volunteer; get on advisory committees #sachat
11:20 pm AScheerbaum: I'm also looking at grad classes at my inst - it's free! All I have to do is make the time! #sachat
11:20 pm frankmichael: is anyone else out there a SA professional NOT working in a student affairs division? #sachat
11:20 pm OrchardKeeper: RT @NASPAtweets: Q2 Sounds simple, but make it known to others on campus about what you are interested in learning. #sachat #sachat
11:20 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @frankmichael: is anyone else out there a SA professional NOT working in a student affairs division? #sachat
11:21 pm willistj: @frankmichael AGREED! I tell my grads that all the time. Much more freedom to explore. "harder" as a new professional. #sachat
11:21 pm StacyLOliver: @FrankMichael I worked in Fiscal and Administrative Affairs for 18 mos. Recently moved to student affairs during restructure #sachat
11:21 pm The_SA_Blog: @arzemke How do you define the line between being pushy and advocating for your own professional development? #sachat
11:21 pm debrasanborn: Some volunteer opps: Admissions-application reading, financial aid-scholarship app reading, student activities-award committees #sachat
11:22 pm dfalletta: Q3: I spoke with my super. about my goals at my interview. We dev. a plan and re-visit it monthly. it works well for me #sachat
11:22 pm willistj: Q3 If I see an opportunity I bring it up! in words of Katt Williams.."gotta watch out for your star player" #sachat
11:22 pm The_SA_Blog: Check out the #SAchat Twibe group to find everyone who participates in #SAchat: http://www.twibes.com/group/sachat
11:22 pm LaurieABerry: Q3 in my weekly mtg with my supervisor I ask 4opportunities he can help me find on campus as well as suggest ways I can help others. #sachat
11:23 pm AScheerbaum: Q3: I find it's important to talk about prof devo opps but still clearly detail how I'm acocmplishing current responsibilities #sachat
11:23 pm frankmichael: @StacyLOliver I'm in auxiliary services in the finance division - in student union operations. Feeling limited! #sachat
11:23 pm willistj: @Debrasansborn award committees are great ways!! gets your foot in the door #sachat
11:23 pm PetePereira: I agree with @willistj. Knowing him helped me transition to a position with the student union at Arizona. #sachat
11:23 pm Joangib: re gaining experience: First be really good at your primary job. Then start the conversation about goals and exploring with supvr. #sachat
11:24 pm AScheerbaum: @Joangib Agreed! Especially for new professionals in the field or at the institution #sachat
11:25 pm jefflail: RT @willistj: Q3 If I see an opportunity I bring it up! in words of Katt Williams.."gotta watch out for your star player" #sachat
11:25 pm Joangib: @frankmichael What do you want to explore? #sachat
11:25 pm willistj: OH YES! This is a must. RT @Joangib re gaining experience: First be really good at your primary job. #sachat
11:25 pm djdw: RT @NASPAtweets: networking/meeting people part is easiest way, but need to network with sincerity, not to have another business contact #sachat #sachat
11:26 pm NASPAtweets: Q3 Make sure supervisor knows interests, even if not job related. I was dance major, and got more creative aspects in job #sachat #sachat
11:26 pm frankmichael: @Joangib Love my current work (event planning) but am worried I'm heading away from SA and am not sure I want to do that yet. #sachat
11:27 pm StacyLOliver: @NASPAtweets So true. I have a journalism background and have been given dept marketing tasks. #sachat
11:28 pm StacyLOliver: Q4. Previous institution was great about exposure in areas, new skills. Have a harder time now especially with administrative skills #sachat
11:28 pm debrasanborn: @NASPAtweets I was a comm studies major and landed in SA. It all works out. #sachat
11:28 pm cindykane: Q3: Agreed with not depending on supervisors for opportunities...you can involve your supervisor in opening doors, but it's up 2 u! #sachat
11:29 pm MichaelSCashman: Offer others the types of opportunities you are hoping to be offered in your office/division/program they will in turn think of you #sachat
11:29 pm cholbrook357: where are the questions....lost already! #sachat
11:29 pm JamieDresher: Just when I think I can chat, I get pulled away. So where are we? #sachat
11:30 pm willistj: Q4 crisis management. no substitute for the real thing...which no one wants to happen. when it does its hard to get in on #sachat
11:30 pm reyjunco: Yo #sachat peeps - Rey Junco here. In it to win it for part 2 of tonight's chat!
11:30 pm NASPAtweets: @debrasanborn It really does. Dance and Psychology 2x major has led me to social media and placement and programs! #sachat #sachat
11:31 pm Joangib: @frankmichael can you advs a club?Volunteer@ Move in?Sit on awards comt? Help with Orientation?Volntr for Anything! Others will come #sachat
11:31 pm NASPAtweets: @StacyLOliver @willistj Did I miss this magical Q4? =) #sachat #sachat
11:31 pm dfalletta: It's also important to think of others, too. Invite them into your dept for projects if they are interested #sachat
11:31 pm reyjunco: @debrasanborn is here. I've missed you! #sachat
11:31 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @dfalletta: It's also important to think of others, too. Invite them into your dept for projects if they are interested #sachat
11:31 pm The_SA_Blog: @dfalletta Excellent point. We have to be role models of experience sharing! #sachat
11:32 pm arzemke: @cindykane very true and am doing so in my national assoc participation. do employers feel that is as good as institutional exp? #sachat
11:32 pm The_SA_Blog: : RT @The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q4: Are there specific skills that you have a hard time identifying opportunities to enhance? #sachat
11:32 pm dfalletta: @The_SA_Blog thanks! We role model for students 24/7...no reason we can't role model for our peers, too #sachat
11:32 pm frankmichael: @Joangib Great ideas. It's hard b/c I'm not in the SA div. I'm usually out of the loop until it's too late :) #sachat
11:33 pm reyjunco: @The_SA_Blog If you are having a hard time identifying them, how can you go about doing so? #sachat
11:33 pm StacyLOliver: @arzemke Yes. My experience has been that what I do in #GLACUHO is as transferable for most employers as what I do on campus. #sachat
11:33 pm reyjunco: RT @dfalletta: @The_SA_Blog thanks! We role model for students 24/7...no reason we can't role model for our peers, too #sachat
11:33 pm LaurieABerry: I want to see staff involved institutionally, regionally, and nationally. #sachat
11:33 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @reyjunco: If you are having a hard time identifying them, how can you go about doing so? #sachat
11:33 pm AScheerbaum: @frankmichael re: being out of the loop - is there a staff council or SA newsletter / forum you can attend regularly? #sachat
11:34 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @LaurieABerry: I want to see staff involved institutionally, regionally, and nationally. #sachat
11:34 pm frankmichael: Q4 skills are easier to come by than time. I often see what read as entry level jobs with 5 yr time exp reqts #sachat
11:34 pm NASPAtweets: Q4 being a good listener/counselor is hard to quantify. Also, obvi we love students, but not everyone works with them well! #sachat #sachat
11:34 pm reyjunco: @The_SA_Blog I've got ideas, but I want to hear from the group about identifying those "hard to reach" skills :) #sachat
11:34 pm StacyLOliver: @LaurieABerry And you walk the walk with your involvement. Love that you role model that for your staff [and adopted staff?] #sachat
11:35 pm reyjunco: @frankmichael I don't know if someone said this already, but try to volunteer on SA initiatives/committees #sachat
11:35 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @NASPAtweets: Q4 being a good listener/counselor is hard to quantify. Also we love students but not everyone works with them well #sachat
11:35 pm cindykane: @arzemke Q4: I think it depends on the employer's experience... with me Assoc. experience is great but I got exp there too! #sachat
11:35 pm jefflail: geez, just realized i haven't been adding #sachat to my responses...lol
11:35 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @jefflail: hardest thing is trying to find opportunities to enhance skills when your main job is so time consuming (cont) #sachat
11:36 pm reyjunco: @jefflail You changed your profile pic - I was about to say "I don't know who this guy is, but I like him" - EXCELLENT point! #sachat
11:36 pm The_SA_Blog: @jefflail That, friend, is a chat fail. :) #sachat
11:36 pm frankmichael: RT @jefflail: hardest thing is trying to find opportunities to enhance skills when your main job is so time consuming (cont) #sachat
11:36 pm jefflail: Q3 I don't depend on supervisors to find opportunities.Get yours.I know that comes off negative, but you can't expect spoon feeding #sachat
11:36 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @jefflail: I'm concerned about burnout and refuse to sacrifice kicking butt at my job or my personal health just to get ahead. #sachat
11:36 pm LaurieABerry: Regional and national involvement in associations shows commitment to the sa profession. #sachat That is something I value in my team!
11:36 pm jefflail: Q2 ask questions, meet colleagues, be available and interested in others work, take initiative that may not be "necessary". #sachat
11:36 pm willistj: BWAHAHAHA! RT @The_SA_Blog @jefflail That, friend, is a chat fail. :) #sachat
11:36 pm HFIELDS33: @jefflail can you find a creative way to use your current responsibilities to develop those skills? #SACHAT
11:37 pm reyjunco: My take on it: You can get ahead without sacrificing your mental/physical health! #sachat
11:37 pm cindykane: Q4: There's a lot that isn't in our control in this field...advising skills depends on students u r working with, etc...#sachat
11:37 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @HFIELDS33: @jefflail can you find a creative way to use your current responsibilities to develop those skills? #sachat
11:37 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q5: Professional associations have been mentioned a few times now. How do you use those networks to gain transferable skills? #sachat
11:37 pm dfalletta: As a #ResLife person, I struggle to build my interpersonal skills with other adults who live in the "real world" #sachat
11:38 pm jefflail: @The_SA_Blog @hsfields33 all over it :) when you're super busy, use the opportunities that fall into your lap to full advantage #sachat
11:38 pm cindykane: Q5: Pro Associations sometimes afford larger scope of experience than our jobs do! #sachat
11:38 pm dfalletta: well, not struggle...just don't get as much exposure as I'd like. #sachat
11:38 pm frankmichael: @The_SA_Blog Q5 I've taken a leadership roles that involve skills i'd like to flex/gain #sachat
11:38 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @dfalletta: As a #ResLife person, I struggle to build my interpersonal skills with other adults who live in the "real world" #sachat
11:38 pm NASPAtweets: Not sure which Q this is relevant to, but it is also hard to switch institutional types/show that you are well qualified... #sachat #sachat
11:38 pm reyjunco: @dfalletta You could set up "get togethers" with other prof's in similar situations #sachat
11:38 pm MichaelSCashman: Build relationships with faculty. Build your credibility w/ them -- this will give you a wider support system/resource #sachat
11:39 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @frankmichaelQ5 I've taken a leadership roles that involve skills i'd like to flex/gain #sachat
11:39 pm reyjunco: RT @frankmichael: @The_SA_Blog Q5 I've taken a leadership roles that involve skills i'd like to flex/gain #sachat
11:39 pm AScheerbaum: Q5: When at conferences, go to sessions that benefit YOU personally and those that benefit your instititution / department #sachat
11:39 pm willistj: @q5 lurk on forums. ex: #ACUI has forums and I look at the Facilitites and Operations OR the Auxiliary Services one to learn things #sachat
11:39 pm StacyLOliver: I use my #glacuho mentors to identify my strengths/skills and seek opportunities that I may not have considered otherwise. #sachat
11:39 pm HFIELDS33: @dfalletta You know there is an #RIT Alum joke coming with that one . . . lol #sachat
11:39 pm dfalletta: @reyjunco I def. do that. And I find that, like we tell our students, I need to just get out there and do something out it #sachat
11:39 pm sethhagler: @reyjunco True, shouldn't sacrifice health, but competition & expect. are so high as grad/new prof that often, you can't help it. #sachat
11:39 pm LaurieABerry: Q5 I started with committee work. Then leadership roles all of which directly helped me with my last promotion. #sachat
11:39 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Q5: When at conferences, go to sessions that benefit YOU personally and those that benefit your instititution/dept #sachat
11:39 pm cholbrook357: Q5 #sachat take on roles that are different than your job -
11:39 pm NASPAtweets: Q5 Maybe not gaining the skills, but I know I am more likely to take a "chance" interview with someone I have met before. #sachat #sachat
11:40 pm cindykane: Q5: I got supervision experience with volunteers in @THENACA before I had it at my job! #sachat
11:40 pm jefflail: Q5 i look at professional associations as opp to contribute to the profession. it's higher level thinking and big picture. #sachat
11:40 pm reyjunco: @AScheerbaum That's a hard one. There is so much variability in session quality at conferences. At least now we have Twitter #sachat
11:40 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @cholbrook357: Q5 #sachat take on roles that are different than your job -
11:40 pm NASPAtweets: Q5 Also, this field is small, so if I can call a reference on that person that is a close colleague... #sachat #sachat
11:40 pm frankmichael: It's been easier for me to seek out skills that are more closely related to my position. completely unrelated seems improbable. #sachat
11:40 pm The_SA_Blog: @cholbrook357 Great point! Organizations are a safe space to test waters and try new things. #sachat
11:40 pm willistj: RT @NASPAtweets: Q5 Maybe not gaining the skills, but I know I am more likely to take a "chance" interview with someone I have met before. #sachat #sachat
11:40 pm reyjunco: @sethhagler As I'm fond of saying, if you are going to work hard, you'd better play hard! #sachat
11:40 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @NASPAtweets: Q5 Also, this field is small, so if I can call a reference on that person that is a close colleague... #sachat
11:40 pm cholbrook357: RT @frankmichael: It's been easier for me to seek out skills that are more closely related to my position. completely unrelated seems improbable. #sachat
11:41 pm AScheerbaum: @reyjunco True - there is an opp. for confs to post their session notes / agendas / discussion online! Or livestream and save on web #sachat
11:41 pm arzemke: RT @cindykane: Q5: I got supervision experience with volunteers in @THENACA before I had it at my job! #sachat
11:41 pm jpkirch: RT @reyjunco: My take on it: You can get ahead without sacrificing your mental/physical health! #sachat
11:41 pm cholbrook357: @frankmichael If you are in event management, those skills can be leveraged for a shot to try something new #sachat
11:41 pm jpkirch: RT @LaurieABerry: Regional and national involvement in associations shows commitment to the sa profession. #sachat
11:41 pm dfalletta: Q5: Prof assoc's are a great way to ask other professionals about how to build one's skill set. Use their experience #sachat
11:42 pm sethhagler: @The_SA_Blog Q5 Org relationships are critical at this stage in my game. Not only do I ID mentors, but they allow huge growth opps. #sachat
11:42 pm willistj: @sethhagler Great point! I also find that grads that bust their hump and are awesome at their job. get more opportunities. #sachat
11:42 pm AScheerbaum: RT @dfalletta: Q5: Prof assoc's are a great way to ask other professionals about how to build one's skill set. Use their experience #sachat
11:42 pm reyjunco: @AScheerbaum They should hand a few attendees LiveScribe pens and post the audio/notes - whoa! I like that idea! #sachat
11:42 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q6: For those of you who have transitioned to different functional areas, what wisdom can you share? #sachat
11:42 pm willistj: RT @reyjunco: @sethhagler As I'm fond of saying, if you are going to work hard, you'd better play hard! #sachat
11:43 pm dfalletta: RT @sethhagler: @The_SA_Blog Q5 Org rel's are critical at this stage in my game. #sachat
11:43 pm cindykane: @willistj @sethhagler I agree a rock star work ethic gets rewarded, but I also think our GA's get taken advantage of sometimes #sachat
11:43 pm AScheerbaum: Q5: seems obvious - but separate yourself from your inst colleagues / friends at conference: sit with someone udon't know & learn! #sachat
11:43 pm StacyLOliver: Q6: Not a different functional area, but a very different role in housing: Use your networks. Call on fcolleagues for help #sachat
11:44 pm dfalletta: RT @StacyLOliver: Q6:Use your networks. Call on fcolleagues for help #sachat
11:44 pm willistj: q6 identify transferable skills. Speak in the language of Professional Competencies for the SA profession or your niche area #sachat
11:44 pm AScheerbaum: @reyjunco Agreed! The use of audio / video technology can increase the spread of knowledge - and allow us to parse through the "bad" #sachat
11:44 pm PetePereira: For all you #sachat bracketteers, Butler's beating Syracuse in the 1st half
11:44 pm arzemke: @sethhagler agree 100% #sachat
11:44 pm reyjunco: @The_SA_Blog There are skills/qualities that cut across all areas: being engaging, empathy, supporting stud growth, rapport building #sachat
11:44 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Q5: seems obvious - but separate yourself from your inst colleagues at conference: sit with someone new & learn! #sachat
11:44 pm jpkirch: Ditto! Gives pros broader perspective! RT @LaurieABerry: I want to see staff involved institutionally, regionally, and nationally. #sachat
11:44 pm Joangib: @willistj: @sethhagler Great point! I also find that grads that are awesome at their job. get more opportunities. #sachat Very True.
11:44 pm JamieDresher: @cindykane @willistj @sethhagler - Glad you said something! Many times I felt taken advantage of when I was a GA. #sachat
11:44 pm The_SA_Blog: @AScheerbaum Why are we so tied to our institutions at conferences? Definitely a pattern nationally! #sachat
11:44 pm reyjunco: @AScheerbaum I think I stumbled upon something here with the LiveScribe idea @NASPATweets, we need to talk! #sachat
11:45 pm jpkirch: Best pieces of advice - know yourself, do your research and use your networks! #sachat
11:45 pm willistj: @cindykane yes! As I once said as a grad, if you work me like a dog, the dog might run away. Must pay attn to burnout. #sachat
11:46 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @jpkirch: Best pieces of advice - know yourself, do your research and use your networks! #sachat
11:46 pm AScheerbaum: @The_SA_Blog Comfort! Even the biggest "E"s don't want to look awkward or be rejected! #sachat
11:46 pm reyjunco: RT @jpkirch: Best pieces of advice - know yourself, do your research and use your networks! #sachat
11:46 pm sethhagler: @cindykane Totally. I work full-time, evn though I'm only 20 hr. It's a love thing, though, and it's part of estab a reputation. #sachat
11:46 pm LaurieABerry: Ditto! RT @jpkirch: Best pieces of advice - know yourself, do your research and use your networks! #sachat
11:46 pm cholbrook357: Safety in #s! RT @The_SA_Blog: @AScheerbaum Why are we so tied to our institutions at conferences? Definitely a pattern nationally! #sachat
11:46 pm cindykane: @JamieDresher We have to model balance from the beginning...we can't have breakdowns in the first year of the field! #sachat
11:46 pm jpkirch: @The_SA_Blog Q6: be patient with yourself. You'll be learning aloy and you will mess up. It's okay. #sachat
11:46 pm Joangib: Q6: Dir of Res Life& Hous to New Student Programs. I rewrote my resume to highlight work with FYS #sachat Also REALLY excited in interview.
11:46 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @cindykane: We have to model balance from the beginning...we can't have breakdowns in the first year of the field! #sachat
11:46 pm HFIELDS33: @AScheerbaum True true true . . . its just like the 1st day at a new school . . . #SACHAT
11:46 pm willistj: AGREED RT @AScheerbaum: Q5: seems obvious - separate yourself from your inst colleagues at conference: sit with someone new & learn! #sachat
11:47 pm studentlifeguru: Q6: Went from activities as grad to housing as professional. Being able to create and market programs was key to being successful #sachat
11:47 pm AScheerbaum: Q6: Don't be afraid to ask questions (and admit you don't know something!)! And sometimes you don't know what you don't know... #sachat
11:47 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @Joangib: Q6: Dir of Res Life& Hous to New Student Programs. I rewrote my resume to highlight work with FYS #sachat
11:47 pm reyjunco: @cindykane It is imperative that we model balance and that we have prof. prep faculty encourage it. It starts with education #sachat
11:47 pm frankmichael: @cholbrook357 you're right. i've gained lots of xferable skills ::) #sachat
11:47 pm JamieDresher: @cindykane I agree. I'm happy I had that experience, but I'm happy it's over! It did feel nice 2 know full-timers could count on me. #sachat
11:48 pm JamieDresher: Some of the best advice I got about attending a conf was never eat w/the same group more than once. #sachat
11:48 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Q6: Don't be afraid to ask questions (and admit you don't know something!)! #sachat
11:49 pm MichaelSCashman: My Grandfather's advise: "Be yourself who is better qualified to be you" Learn, Stretch, Grow but stay true to yourself. #sachat
11:49 pm HFIELDS33: RT @JamieDresher: Some of the best advice I got about attending a conf was never eat w/the same group more than once. #sachat
11:49 pm AScheerbaum: @cindykane @JamieDresher: They don't teach that in grad school! #sachat
11:49 pm Joangib: Q6- I was also passionate interview and thought about what I could bring to their program with my different skill set #sachat
11:49 pm BeccaFick: RT @JamieDresher: Some of the best advice I got about attending a conf was never eat w/the same group more than once. #sachat
11:49 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @MichaelSCashman: My Grandfather's advise: "Be yourself who is better qualified to be you" #sachat
11:49 pm jpkirch: Use your supervisor and colleagues to help you ID people you need to know, then connect with them. #sachat
11:49 pm reyjunco: RT @jpkirch: Use your supervisor and colleagues to help you ID people you need to know, then connect with them. #sachat
11:50 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q7: What are your next steps going to be to help transitiong to a new functional are? #sachat
11:50 pm dfalletta: At conferences I've always found it beneficial to just walk up to people and say "Hi!" #sachat
11:50 pm mariolopesdias: RT @The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Q6: Don't be afraid to ask questions (and admit you don't know something!)! #sachat
11:50 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @jpkirch: Use your supervisor and colleagues to help you ID people you need to know, then connect with them. #sachat
11:50 pm NASPAtweets: Q6 Don't be afraid to volunteer with a dept/org/school that you want to work with. That connection might just get you a job! #sachat #sachat
11:51 pm cholbrook357: Jeez...forgot #sachat AGAIN!RT @cholbrook357: @cindykane True - the work has to be REAL work not just grunt work
11:51 pm reyjunco: RT @dfalletta: At conferences I've always found it beneficial to just walk up to people and say "Hi!" #sachat
11:51 pm jpkirch: Agreed! RT @studentlifeguru: Q6: Went from act as grad to hsng as professional. Ability 2 create & mkt programs was key to success #sachat
11:51 pm kbaumann: RT @The_SA_Blog: RT @jpkirch: Best pieces of advice - know yourself, do your research and use your networks! #sachat
11:51 pm reyjunco: @cholbrook357 Why should a GA be "overworked" instead of just given challenging work and supported when needed? #sachat
11:52 pm jpkirch: Also - at conferences - get to know corporate partners. They know people and they have GREAT insight! #sachat
11:52 pm studentlifeguru: Transition advice: Try to find out the issues of the place you're going to; describe how you can help to solve them. Give examples! #sachat
11:52 pm JGinese23: forgot to unprotect my tweets for the night time sachat - #fail #sachat
11:53 pm frankmichael: RT @reyjunco: @cholbrook357 Why should a GA be "overworked" instead of just given challenging work and supported when needed? #sachat
11:53 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @reyjunco: @cholbrook357 Why should a GA be "overworked" instead of just given challenging work and supported when needed? #sachat
11:53 pm dfalletta: Q7: I don't want to transition any time soon but in the meantime I don't pass up opp's to try new things and meet new people #sachat
11:53 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @jpkirch: Also - at conferences - get to know corporate partners. They know people and they have GREAT insight! #sachat
11:53 pm arzemke: Off to judge annual Greek 'Mock'tail competition...thanks all for the advice! Loving #sachat! :)
11:53 pm AScheerbaum: @studentlifeguru And maybe the issues of the place you're leaving ... so history doesn't repeat itself :) #sachat
11:54 pm reyjunco: So true! RT @The_SA_Blog @jpkirch: at conferences get to know corporate partners. They know ppl & they have GREAT insight! #sachat
11:54 pm willistj: dont plan on transitioning...but as you move up more things come under the position....must start learning now. #sachat
11:54 pm cholbrook357: @reyjunco I think it is in the definition of "overworked" #sachat the idea is to do all you can as a GA to open options up
11:54 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @willistj: dont plan on transitioning...but as you move up more things come under the position....must start learning now. #sachat
11:54 pm hbarbour1: @cindykane Me too!! RTQ5 I got supervision experience with volunteers in @THENACA before I had it at my job! #sachat
11:55 pm reyjunco: @cholbrook357 Ah yes. The purest expression of the "kid in a candy store" phenomenon #sachat
11:55 pm JGinese23: taking #strengthsquest #sachat
11:55 pm NASPAtweets: They also give free stuff sometimes! RT @The_SA_Blog @jpkirch: at conferences get to know corporate partners. #sachat #sachat
11:55 pm The_SA_Blog: @willistj Good point. We always need to be planning for what's coming up in our futures. #sachat
11:55 pm studentlifeguru: Good call! RT @AScheerbaum: @studentlifeguru ...the issues of the place you're leaving ... so history doesn't repeat itself :) #sachat
11:55 pm willistj: AGREED! RT @cholbrook357 I think it is in the definition of "overworked" #sachat the idea is to do all you can as a GA to open options up
11:55 pm sethhagler: @willistj I'm afraid I disagree....I'm more likely to run away if not being given enough work. Prefer over to under any day. #sachat
11:56 pm AScheerbaum: Transition advice: Always have the 5 yr, 10 yr plans... but be willing to modify at any time! #sachat
11:56 pm jefflail: RT @willistj: dont plan on transitioning...but as you move up more things come under the position....must start learning now. #sachat
11:56 pm The_SA_Blog: MOD: As we bring #SAchat to a close, please share your final thoughts.
11:56 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Transition advice: Always have the 5 yr, 10 yr plans... but be willing to modify at any time! #sachat
11:56 pm frankmichael: @sethhagler i was always able to "make" work for myself to do as a grad. there was never an end in sight! #sachat
11:56 pm willistj: Other great way to learn...in classes (as grad or doc student) write papers on new areas for you #sachat
11:57 pm StacyLOliver: Don't be afraid to put yourself out there for jobs in different areas. You'll be surprised at the transferable skills you have. #sachat
11:57 pm reyjunco: @sethhagler Ditto. If I don't have at least 5 major projects going on at once, I'm bored. Hello textbook :) #sachat
11:57 pm willistj: @sethhagler me too..but work must be meaningful #sachat.
11:57 pm AScheerbaum: Today was my first full SACHAT - feeling good learning from colleagues far and wide! #sachat
11:58 pm reyjunco: I'd like to take a minute to plug the #sachat review - please provide your feedback to me by tomorrow :)
11:58 pm jpkirch: Actually - the idea is to balance your degree with practical exp. RT @cholbrook357: #sachat idea is to do all you can as GA to open options
11:58 pm frankmichael: Closing thoughts: transferable skills, networking, seek opportunity to grow! #sachat
11:58 pm reyjunco: @AScheerbaum Awesome! Glad you could make it! #sachat
11:58 pm LaurieABerry: Involvement on any level is attractive to employers. Share your strengths and use your networks. #sachat
11:58 pm The_SA_Blog: @AScheerbaum Glad you were able to join us! We love our new friends. :) #sachat
11:58 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @frankmichael: Closing thoughts: transferable skills, networking, seek opportunity to grow! #sachat
11:58 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @frankmichael: Closing thoughts: transferable skills, networking, seek opportunity to grow! #sachat
11:58 pm NASPAtweets: About what you know AND who you know. Resume: get the interview. Once on campus, doesn't matter if you don't have "skills" #sachat #sachat
11:58 pm willistj: @reyjunco #sachat review?
11:58 pm The_SA_Blog: RT @LaurieABerry: Involvement on any level is attractive to employers. Share your strengths and use your networks. #sachat
11:58 pm frankmichael: @reyjunco can you post the link again? #sachat
11:59 pm dfalletta: Final thoughts: Todays chats were really informative. Networking and seeking one's own opp's seem to be key #sachat
11:59 pm studentlifeguru: Q7: Ready to transition to SSAO role. Currently have a job with housing mgt company to manage $5M+ budget; felt crucial to move up #sachat
11:59 pm reyjunco: Buy a copy of @gtdguy 's Getting Things Done and read it. You'll be glad you did! #sachat
11:59 pm cholbrook357: ME TOO! RT @reyjunco: @sethhagler Ditto. If I don't have at least 5 major projects going on at once, I'm bored. Hello textbook :) #sachat
11:59 pm AScheerbaum: Closing thought: each day brings new learning opps - it's up to YOU to take advantage! #sachat
 
March 26, 2010
sethhagler: @frankmichael Sure, but if super doesn't respect abilities or give work that is assett to dep't, then "made" work doesn't help. #sachat
willistj: RT @AScheerbaum Closing thought: each day brings new learning opps - it's up to YOU to take advantage! #sachat
The_SA_Blog: RT @AScheerbaum: Closing thought: each day brings new learning opps - it's up to YOU to take advantage! #sachat
12:01 am jpkirch: Final thought: know yourself, find your passion, connect with a job you love, use your support network, & transition will be fine. #sachat
12:02 am LaurieABerry: RT @jpkirch: know yourself, find your passion, connect with a job you love, use your support network, & transition will be fine. #sachat
12:02 am reyjunco: Here is the link : just informal feedback please - straight to me : http://bit.ly/c9zilD #sachat
12:02 am The_SA_Blog: MOD: Pen Down, Head Up! EVENING #SAchat is officially closing, but we'll keep the light on all night for those too energized to sleep :-)
12:03 am reyjunco: Thanks #sachat peeps. So glad I could make the second half
12:03 am The_SA_Blog: MOD: Have ideas for future #SAchat topics? Let us know: http://bit.ly/8gqEU9
12:04 am dfalletta: thanks all! take care! #sachat
12:05 am mikesevery: Not anymore for me. I'll be seeking out #sachat @AScheerbaum Why are we so tied to our institutions at conferences? #sachat
12:06 am JGinese23: and #strengthsfinder crashed 15 minutes into it. saving it for tomorrow or the next day. #sachat
12:06 am studentlifeguru: Thanks for the RT @jpkirch @AScheerbaum All warm and fuzzy inside now! #sachat
12:07 am jpkirch: Ditto!! RT @reyjunco: Thanks #sachat peeps. So glad I could make the second half
12:14 am IrmaPelt: I'm glad #sachat is over for another week and the hashtag can resume tracking it's usual meaningless drivel.
12:19 am tbump: RT @jpkirch: Final thought: know yourself, find your passion, connect with a job you love, use your support network, & transition will be fine. #sachat
12:28 am maddyfacepants: @themikebowers i need you to get on #sachat