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April 8, 2010
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4:31 pm
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edcabellon:
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@mrskeegin For #sachat today? |
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4:31 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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30mins till our DAYTIME #SAchat. We've got #studentaffairs busting through our April Showers! http://bit.ly/bp3SgS |
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4:34 pm
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debrasanborn:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: 30mins till our DAYTIME #SAchat. We've got #studentaffairs busting through our April Showers! http://bit.ly/bp3SgS |
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4:36 pm
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edcabellon:
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@mrskeegin http://ow.ly/1w761 Here's your very own personal #sachat TweetGrid. :-) Is this what you were looking for? |
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4:42 pm
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clconzen:
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Can't make #sachat but happy to share personal experience with a "poor fit" over dm |
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4:43 pm
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chellrene:
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Going to try and get lunch and settle in with my netbook so I can participate in #sachat today. It's been too long! |
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4:49 pm
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NikiRudolph:
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For the next hour, I will be without shoes (along with @Kathy_Petras) and in #sachat. Please excuse my tweets and toes. |
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4:50 pm
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benkadamus:
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I'll be participating in #sachat from 1-2 PM today, so pardon my tweets. #sachat |
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4:50 pm
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reyjunco:
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@MalloryEmerson Love your food blog. The #sachat foodies are going to be all over it. |
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4:51 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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Check out the #SAchat Twibe group to find everyone who participates in #SAchat: http://www.twibes.com/group/sachat |
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4:51 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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#sachat in 10 minutes!!!! sorry to my non-#studentaffairs friends for blowing up your tweetboxes. |
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4:53 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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The unprotecting of the Tweets on Thursdays for #sachat always feels ceremonious, which is weird because I'm only planning on lurking. |
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4:54 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@StacyLOliver I can't picture you lurking in #sachat. You're too active! It'll throw off the chi (or something) |
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4:55 pm
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edcabellon:
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Ditto for BB - Turn Your Device Into an SMS Chat Room with Group Text Msgs http://ow.ly/1w7A2 (via @Crackberry) [Imagine #sachat on this?] |
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4:55 pm
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LTEConsulting:
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Ditto for BB - Turn Your Device Into an SMS Chat Room with Group Text Msgs http://ow.ly/1w7CO (via @Crackberry) [Imagine #sachat on this?] |
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4:55 pm
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slhealy:
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I should have grabbed lunch before #sachat. Good thing no one can hear your stomach growl over the internet. |
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4:56 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Not apologizing for my naked toes or excessive tweets today :) #sachat from 1-2PM EST, discussing person/environment fit in job searching |
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4:56 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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First time joining the #SAchat? Start here > http://bit.ly/bp3SgS |
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4:56 pm
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djdw:
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I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #sachat |
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4:57 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #sachat |
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4:57 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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Participating in #sachat! Haven't been able to do this in a couple of weeks. |
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4:58 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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will be eating lunch while I #sachat this afternoon :o) |
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4:58 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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4:58 pm
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laurapasquini:
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Multi-tasking lunch: Wedding DJ consult on phone, #SACHAT & looking at RFP for Friday's class. YAY! |
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4:58 pm
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djdw:
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#sachat time! for all of you non-#studentaffairs tweeps, sorry for being tweet-tastic over the next hour or so |
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4:58 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Blowing my speakers up with #sachat for the next hour. Join the fun! |
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4:59 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #sachat |
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4:59 pm
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edcabellon:
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Heads up to all followers, I'm participating in this week's #sachat, and may be more "active" over the next hour! |
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5:00 pm
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KBHgal:
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#sachat for a bit before lunch date. |
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5:00 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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checking out my first #sachat this afternoon |
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5:01 pm
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PetePereira:
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A co-worker persuaded me to get lunch. I'll check out #sachat in a little while. |
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5:01 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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#sachat today! |
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5:01 pm
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kriscarr442:
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participating in SA chat, followers beware :) #sachat |
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5:01 pm
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JPedde:
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I haven't fully participated in a twitter chat in awhile...going thru withdrawal. Going to be listening in on #sachat for the next hour :) |
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5:01 pm
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edcabellon:
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@KevinPCroke Hello!!! Nice to see you here, how's life the big city? #sachat |
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5:01 pm
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BeccaFick:
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@KevinPCroke Welcome to #sachat :) |
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5:01 pm
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jpkirch:
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Howdy twitter peeps - I'm about to jump into a great #sachat discussion about institutional/professional fit! Join in if you'd like! |
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5:01 pm
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lynnellison:
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Sorry for my increased activity in the next hour. I'm participating in #sachat. Feel free to filter if not interested. :) |
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5:01 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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#sachat |
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5:01 pm
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Joangib:
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Exited about today's #sachat (1-2 PM EST) |
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5:02 pm
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jpkirch:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:02 pm
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slhealy:
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@kevinpcroke Welcome to the chat! #sachat |
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5:02 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@KevinPCroke Welcome, Kevin! Great to see in #sachat |
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5:03 pm
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KBHgal:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:03 pm
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Joangib:
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@KevinPCroke Welcome #sachat |
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5:03 pm
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RagstoRitzMama:
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New to #sachat Glad to meet new ppl in the field! |
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5:03 pm
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aSarahWood:
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I'm searching for #sachat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23sachat |
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5:03 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@RagstoRitzMama Welcome! Glad you could join us! #sachat |
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5:04 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@RagstoRitzMama welcome to #sachat!!! |
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5:04 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Welcome to #sachat! @RagstoRitzMama |
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5:04 pm
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edcabellon:
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@RagstoRitzMama Hi Stefanie! :-) #sachat |
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5:04 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Hey everyone! #SACHAT |
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5:04 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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I'm tweeting for 2 today - myself and @aludraeltanin (both #iupsahe and grads at Housing&Dining at Carnegie Mellon!) #sachat |
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5:04 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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1st #sachat I can jump in on and not just read the recap the next day! |
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5:04 pm
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slhealy:
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@stacyloliver I went way back and looked it up - My first chat was last November! #sachat |
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5:04 pm
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mrskeegin:
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Apologies to those non-Student Affairs folks - I'll keep my tweets limited and brief during today's #sachat. |
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5:04 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Gooooooooooooooooo #sachat! #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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SACohort2008:
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RT @lynnellison: Sorry for my increased activity in the next hour. I'm participating in #sachat. Feel free to filter if not interested. :) |
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5:05 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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@MalloryEmerson welcome!
#sachat |
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5:05 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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@MalloryEmerson welcome! I hope you love it! #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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edcabellon:
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@slhealy So great to have you back :-) #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@MalloryEmerson Welcome, Mallory! Thanks for joining us! #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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Joangib:
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@RagstoRitzMama Welcome to #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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benkadamus:
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Let's rock some Professional Development today! #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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aSarahWood:
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I've stalked long enough...I'm joining in on my first #sachat today! |
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5:05 pm
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mrskeegin:
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Hurray for @MalloryEmerson joining the #sachat live today! |
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5:05 pm
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JPedde:
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@SACohort2008 @lynnellison - don't apologize :) #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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m_s_nelson:
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lets talk about the synergistic paradigms prevalent in our paranthetical professional discourse and the discursive implications #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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bethbare:
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I will be lurking on SAChat for the next hour or so #sachat |
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5:05 pm
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edcabellon:
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@MalloryEmerson Welcome Mallory! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@slhealy Welcome back. Congratulations on your great progress on your thesis! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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jpkirch:
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Hello #sachat! Julie Payne Kirchmeier here from SIUC! Looking forward to the chat today! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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JPedde:
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I'm excited :) RT @benkadamus: Lets rock some Professional Development today! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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djdw:
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@aSarahWood Welcome to #sachat! |
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5:06 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@aSarahWood Welcome to your first chat! Pleased that you're joining us! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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benkadamus:
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@aSarahWood Welcome Sarah. #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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cindykane:
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Hello #sachat and welcome to first-timers! (hi, @KevinPCroke ...BSC alum :-) |
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5:06 pm
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slhealy:
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@edcabellon Thanks, Ed! I'm excited to be able to make it back finally! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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edcabellon:
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@aSarahWood Very cool, welcome aboard! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@aSarahWood awesome! that's so exciting! #sachat |
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5:06 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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#sachat Jeannette Passmore - Owens Community College Findlay Campus - let's talk! |
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5:06 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Welcome @aSarahWood to #sachat today! She is a fellow Kent Grad student and a GA in my office with @kathy_petras! |
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5:06 pm
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slhealy:
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@The_SA_Blog Pleasure's all mine. :) You made my acknowledgments page, BTW. #sachat |
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5:07 pm
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Joangib:
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@aSarahWood Welcome! #sachat |
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5:07 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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It's TRUE! RT @BeccaFick: Welcome @aSarahWood to #sachat today! She is a fellow Kent Grad student and a GA in my office with @kathy_petras! |
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5:07 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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#sachat Laurie Berry from the University of Southern Indiana :) |
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5:07 pm
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lynnellison:
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Hi, everyone! Lynn Ellison, American Campus Communities in beautiful Austin, Texas. #sachat #sachat |
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5:07 pm
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JPedde:
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Jenn - Syracuse Univ. Graduate - looking for HigherEd work AND researching Higher Ed programs for next year :) #sachat |
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5:07 pm
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willistj:
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ooo is Kent State trying to be the next BSC? #sachat |
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5:07 pm
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slhealy:
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Roll call: Shannon Healy, student affairs grad student and (hopefully) soon-to-be professional. #sachat |
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5:08 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@Kathy_Petras i don't think we can handle any more of you bedazzlers. #sachat |
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5:08 pm
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KBHgal:
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Kristen Hyman at LeaderShape in Champaign, IL. #sachat |
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5:08 pm
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cholbrook357:
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Hello @KevinPCroke! I am lurking and hopefully participating in #sachat too this afternoon |
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5:08 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Erin Ebert, at Texas A&M University #sachat |
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5:08 pm
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Joangib:
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Hi folks- Joan from WIT in Boston. #sachat |
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5:08 pm
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jpkirch:
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Hey there @jeannettemarie! Good to see you here today!
#sachat |
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5:09 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Nathan Victoria at NASPA that coordinates #TPE #saplacement in the office, so have an obvious interest in this subject! #sachat |
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5:09 pm
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NikiRudolph:
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Niki - Michigan State. #sachat |
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5:09 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Roll Call: Melissa Brown, Graduate Intern at Pitt-Greensburg, soon to be #iupSAHE grade, job hunter #sachat |
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5:09 pm
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jpkirch:
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@TennesseeBelle Whoop! Gig 'em Aggies! Welcome!
#sachat |
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5:09 pm
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tbump:
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Hello! #sachat Teri Bump, American Campus Communities, Aggieland, TX |
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5:09 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Welcome, all. Today's topic is institutional fit. Please include question numbers in your responses to help people follow along #sachat |
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5:09 pm
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jesstini85:
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roll call - Jessica Fantini, Lycoming College, Student Life Coordinator/Asst. for Residential #sachat |
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5:09 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Chris MacDonald-Dennis, dean for intercultural affairs at Bryn Mawr College. I suggested today's topic! #sachat |
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5:09 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Officially welcoming everyone to this week's DAYTIME #SAchat !!! Let's get our #SAchat on! |
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5:09 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: New to the #SAchat? Stand up and introduce yourself. |
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5:09 pm
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willistj:
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hello all! going to try to do the afternoon #sachat with my 4mo old! Welcome to the new folks! TJ here from NC State. Asst Dir Campus Activ |
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5:09 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Hello! Scott M. Helfrich with Student Life Consultants. #sachat |
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5:10 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Hello! Student Affairs Cohort (graduating next month!) from San Diego State University #sachat |
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5:10 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@NikiRudolph I need to make a trip up your way to meet you! #sachat |
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5:10 pm
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cindykane:
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Roll Call: Cindy Kane from THE Bridgewater State College (MA). Dir. of Student Involvement and Leadership. #sachat |
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5:10 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Hep peeps...don't get annoyed, it's #sachat day! :) |
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5:10 pm
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benkadamus:
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Ben Kadamus from Holy Cross in Worcester, MA #sachat |
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5:10 pm
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mrskeegin:
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@willistj Jealous! I miss my little BB. #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@cindykane you are so funny. haha. #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Q1: As you look at opportunities, how do you determine what you personally need from a department/institution for a good fit? #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Ryan Darling, Res Life @ College of the Holy Cross (MA) #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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@tbump whoop to another in Aggieland tweeting today! #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Kristen Carr, Binghamton University, Activities #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Roll Call: I'm back to join in today! Madeline Shoemaker, Appalachian State, Grad Student and Residence Director #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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willistj:
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@sachort2008 LOVE IT! CONGRATS!!! #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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howardsj:
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Sarah Howard, academic advisor at UNC-Chapel Hill. Might be able to actually participate in #sachat for a few minutes today! |
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5:11 pm
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cholbrook357:
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I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Hey I'm Sam! Johnson and Wales University, Charlotte - Residential Life Coordinator! #sachat |
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5:11 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Becca Fick, Kent Grad in May, currently Greek Life/Leadership GA at Baldwin-Wallace College #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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JPedde:
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@kriscarr442 Ahhh binghamton! we're practically neighbors (i'm near syracuse) #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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I'm new to #sachat, Kevin Croke from THAT Marymount Manhattan College (NY) Coordinator of Student Activities |
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5:12 pm
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edcabellon:
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(looks around) WOW, lots of folks joining us today! Very cool :-) #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Hello #sachat Kathy Petras from Baldwin-Wallace College in Ohio. Assist. Dir. of Student life |
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5:12 pm
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slhealy:
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Q1: During round 1 of my search I considered geo location, job responsibilities, availability of support network. #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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samanthaledford:
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@howardsj - go Tar Heels! I grew up in Chapel Hill :)
#sachat |
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5:12 pm
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benkadamus:
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Q1: I look at mission of the institution, department structure, and if there's opportunity for mentoring and role models. #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Q1: I never asked about institutionalfit until 10 years into my career #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q1: I always look at the institutional mission statement first. Let's me thier values. Then Iook for ways the campus lives them. #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q1 Definitely need flexibility and ability to make decisions #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q1: supervisory style is really important - i always asked about the style of the person who would be directly supervising me #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @slhealy: Q1: During round 1 of my search I considered geo location, job responsibilities, availability of support network. #sachat |
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5:12 pm
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CledaWang:
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Can't do #sachat this afternoon.....prepping to go to Spring 2010 Raines Colloquium feat. Dr. Tim Pierson, VPSA at Longwood University... |
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5:13 pm
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lynnellison:
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Q1: Things I've appreciated from past experiences - accessible sr. staff, flexibility, autonomy, ability to grow #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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chellrene:
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@maddyfacepants Hey maddy! I am an App alum! RD of Belk Hall 2000-02 #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Q1: On paper I look 4 institutions/divisions that will challenge me since I'm a new professional - also positions that fit my skills #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Q1: Past experience - when have I been happiest and what were contributing factors, and how will this new institution challenge me. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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djdw:
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Q1: I like to think about what aspects of my current job get me really excited & what aspects I dread #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Q1: Support from my supervisor for sure. Also ability to be autonomous and creative in my work. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q1 (cont.): I can then compare my value system to the institutions. Gives me a starting point. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Q1: I look at the mission, vision and values. Also location and how my family would adapt to a new place. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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Joangib:
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@ChrisMacDen I didn't look at it at first either. Big mistake at one job. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@maddyfacepants Any chance you overlapped with Sarah Buchanan at App? used to work with her #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @JennaMagnuski: Q1: supervisory style is really important - i always asked about style of the person who would be supervising me #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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willistj:
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Q1 have to know what is impt to me 1st and where I want to go w/ career. Then identifying inst fit and opps is easier #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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SACohort2008:
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@willistj Thanks for the #sachat love! |
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5:13 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Q1: I look for structure/support coming from the department #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q1 - geo location and ability to do new things and grow #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @willistj: @Q1 have to know what is impt to me 1st and where I want to go w/ career. Then identifying inst fit and opps is easier #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Q1. Asking other classmates/colleagues what their searches entailed. I'm very much an external processor. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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ATECadvise:
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@The_SA_Blog Q1: opportunity to utilize my creative side and work environment. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q1: I agree with @CindyKane. I also look at opportunities for advancement and collaboaration within the institution. #sachat |
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5:13 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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I have worked at mid-size Catholic university, 2 large public universities, and 2 small liberal arts colleges #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @kriscarr442: Q1: I look for structure/support coming from the department #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q1 Need to know the student population the institution is attempting to serve #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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Whew, slinking in late again. Students call! I'm Sarah, reslife in Colorado, searching for midlevel positions :) #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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JSFrier:
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oopse my tweets were protected!: James Frier, ResLife and Housing - NYU #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: Q1: As u look at opportunities, how do u determine what u personally need from a dept/institution for a good fit? #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @NASPAtweets: Q1. Asking other classmates/colleagues what their searches entailed. Im very much an external processor. #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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BeccaFick:
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@The_SA_Blog Looking for a balance of challenge/support, freedom to try new ideas, support for prodev, variety of tasks #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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willistj:
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q1 I have a 5-10 year plan of where I want to go professionally & Personally. this helps weed out bad fit for me personally #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @debrasanborn: Q1 Need to know the student population the institution is attempting to serve #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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I agree with both @jpkirch and @samanthaledford, vision/values are more important than anything else to me. #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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geo location, supervisory opportunities #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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kriscarr442:
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RT @NASPAtweets: Q1. Asking other classmates/colleagues what their searches entailed. I'm very much an external processor. #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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howardsj:
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#sachat Q1: For me it is important to be able to have a good work/life balance. Institutional culture and supervision is important to that |
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5:14 pm
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chellrene:
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Roll Call: Michell Jaworski, Winthrop Univ. Asst Dir of Res Life #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Also, location can be a make or break factor for me - I need opportunities beyond my position/campus to have a balanced life. #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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RT @Kathy_Petras: Q1: Support from my supervisor for sure. Also ability to be autonomous and creative in my work. #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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samanthaledford:
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@Brown_Melissa I know Sarah Buchanan! She graduated a year after I did from ASU.
#sachat |
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5:14 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @BeccaFick: Q1 Looking for a balance of challenge/support, freedom to try new ideas, support for prodev, variety of tasks #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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cindykane:
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Q1 - how do you get a sense of all this at an interview? It's all great, but how do you know it's real? #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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KBHgal:
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Q1: Important to know self, ask the compelling questions about what you need. Then you can explore if it exists. #sachat |
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5:14 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q1 having been at 1 institution most of my career, I make sure we are transparent when we recruit by sharing values #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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(Q1) I hate not being able to easily find mission, vision, values of a place either online or in job posting #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@CledaWang Tim is awesome! I worked there in 2005 as a NODA intern! #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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jpkirch:
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Pick apart the job description - that can tell you a lot about what the institution values, and whether or not your values align. #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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i wanted a large institution, in the south, and it was important to have support to develop in the field #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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ericstoller:
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Q1: I need space to be creative & to try new ideas. If I can't be innovative, I have to move on... #SAChat |
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5:15 pm
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slhealy:
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Q1: I looked for what prodev opportunities they had, but also name dropped #sachat as a way I develop. |
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5:15 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Q1: I look to see if the dept / univ participates in ACPA, NASPA, NACA, NACURH and other student life orgs . #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Q1: Now I know the strengths/ challenges at different types of places #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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JPedde:
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Q1: institution size, location, mission statements/values #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Also, location can be a make or break factor for me-need opportunities beyond my position/campus to have a balance #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Q1: yah honestly I look at geo location and institutional size/mission #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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seems like we all have a lot of strong opinions - hard to keep up this week! haha #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @ericstoller: Q1: I need space to be creative & to try new ideas. If I can't be innovative, I have to move on #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@samanthaledford Awesome! We worked together at the University of North Carolina School of the Arts. :) #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@samanthaledford @Brown_Melissa don't know her...but at least one of us ASU ppl does :) #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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jesstini85:
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Q1 look at what was positive and negative of past employment to know what u r/r not looking for in future #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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Joangib:
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@cindykane Q1 - how do you get a sense of all this at an interview? It's all great, but how do you know it's real? VERY true #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@slhealy We appreciate the name dropping. :) #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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BeccaFick:
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@cindykane Q1 It feels like sorority recruitment. You hope the values match the t-shirts, slogans, and cheesecakes. #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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samanthaledford:
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me too! RT @studentlifeguru: Q1: I look to see if the dept / univ participates in ACPA, NASPA, NACA, NACURH and student life orgs. #sachat |
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5:15 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Q1 (cont) then i look at reporting structures and programs already established, then where my style fits #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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jpkirch:
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You should also look at your own life situation and make sure the values you see professed will support your work/life balance. #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@studentlifeguru That is an excellent thing to look for! #sachat #writingthatdown |
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5:16 pm
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KBHgal:
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Q!: Developing good info finding questions when interviewing - and ask people what they know, think about the place. #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jesstini85: Q1 look at what was positive and negative of past employment to know what u r/r not looking for in future #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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NikiRudolph:
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@BruinsAhYeah Ditto. Needs to eval the campus and surrounding community to determine fit for me. #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@studentlifeguru good point, professional associations are a big factor for me as well #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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howardsj:
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I agree w @BeccaFick that prof development is really important. I got a different impression from my interview than has been reality #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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@jesstini85 I always tell people that I have to have bad experiences to know what I'm looking for in my next experience. #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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chellrene:
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Q1: I think I would ditto most of what's been said, but for me it's also something internal I can't always quantify or qualify. #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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willistj:
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q1 @ericstoller AGREED! - need flexibility to move org forward within my scope of work #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Ask about collegiality, collaboration between departments #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@aludraeltanin wants to know about the type of student and whether she could mesh with them! #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @ericstoller: Q1: I need space to be creative & to try new ideas. If I can't be innovative, I have to move on... #SAChat |
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5:16 pm
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slhealy:
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Someone wise on here told me to check out the grocery store near campus, for all you'd need to know about the local area! :) #sachat |
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5:16 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q1 it is nice to not feel desperate in a job search and look for qualities i want. different from last time i searched #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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SACohort2008:
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@maddyfacepants I think it's worse when u cannot locate the structure of the office. I want to know if there R 2 professionals or 20 #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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@cindykane the field is small. Ask your colleagues their thoughts about the institution! #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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kriscarr442:
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RT @willistj: q1 @ericstoller AGREED! - need flexibility to move org forward within my scope of work #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @BeccaFick: @cindykane Q1 It feels like sorority recruitment. You hope the values match the t-shirts, slogans, and cheesecakes. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q1 I also look for a team of professionals that enjoy sharing ideas, brainstorming, problem solving. Group processing important.
#sachat |
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5:17 pm
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KBHgal:
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RT @StacyLOliver: I always tell people that I have to have bad experiences to know what I'm looking for in my next experience. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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willistj:
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q1 look at staff dynamics....dont want to be the sole young one in the dept. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Q2: How do you best determine institutional values? What are your best resources before being hired? #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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@BeccaFick agreed, Becca...TPE felt like recruitment all over again! #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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jpkirch:
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You can also call people that you know and trust that work at the instiuttion to get the 'real scoop' on a place. Helps me a lot. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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benkadamus:
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Q1: There's an element of having a good "gut feeling" about a place. Do what your heart tells, but make them sell it to you too. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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asking what staff value beyond what is stated on paper is equally important. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @MikeJHamilton: Q1 it is nice to not feel desperate in a job search and look for qualities i want. different from last time i searched #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Agreed! RT @chellrene: Q1: ...for me its also something internal I cant always quantify or qualify. #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @slhealy: Someone wise on here told me to check out the grocery store near campus, for all you'd need to know about local area! #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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djdw:
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Q1: educational philosophy is a big one. Is this sa group serious about student learning or is it just given lip service? #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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lelambeth:
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I'm jumping into a student affairs chat - #sachat - forgive the multiple tweets over the new 40 mins. :) |
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5:17 pm
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howardsj:
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Good point, @DebraSanborn. The team you work with is SUPER important! #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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cindykane:
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Yes!! RT @NASPAtweets:the field is small. Ask your colleagues their thoughts about the institution! #sachat |
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5:17 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: You can also call people that you know and trust that work at the instiuttion to get the 'real scoop' on a place. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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KBHgal:
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How do people sound and look when you ask questions about what fits for you? Those cues can be really telling #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @benkadamus: Q1: There's an element of having a good "gut feeling" about a place. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q2: Mission statements, goals/strategic plans, asking questions about the culture & philosophy of campus/dept. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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cindykane:
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Q2: Institutional values emerge through allocation of resources #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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willistj:
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q1 @debrasanborn yes! group process is a must. - colleague had an office couch for this reason! #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @KBHgal: How do people sound and look when you ask questions about what fits for you? Those cues can be really telling #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q2: @aludraeltanin student newspaper tells you a lot about how the students perceive the institution & how values are enacted #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q2 talk to people in the field that you know, use connections, talk to students about what they think. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q2: I utilized website, professional contacts, friends and networks...I wanted to know a lot before moving my life #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Transparency in general is important for both institutions and divisions just like it is for us as job searchers and professionals. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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RagstoRitzMama:
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Q1 agreed, must show willingness to integrate, be open... think of it as a model for student behavior. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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@The_SA_Blog Q2: I ask friends in the field. Decided not to apply for position bc found depts were territorial #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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#sachat Q1 straight out of grad I focused on ability to stretch my legs, grow as pro, but would now look more spec for pro dev opps |
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5:18 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Q2 There's institutional values and department values. I'm willing to be the change I want to see if one component will support me. #sachat |
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5:18 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q2: when people I know are looking I try to connect them with someone who has worked at the Institution in the past. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Q1: I also think the type of student is important for me. I have some great ones now & that's a question I ask in interviews. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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KBHgal:
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If leaving a negative experience, be wary of looking for just what you don't want. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@KBHGal Great point, Kristen. Non-verbals and what people AREN'T telling you are also essential communication. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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BeccaFick:
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I've looked for potential supervisor/colleagues names in the places I want to be (blogs, prof. org leadership boards, conferences) #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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slhealy:
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@jpkirch It's been nice knowing people through twitter that have worked at schools, or know someone there you can connect with. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Q2: Read the mission and watch to see if it is reflected in your interactions with staff and on campus. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @jpkirch: You can also call people that you know and trust that work at the instiuttion to get the 'real scoop' on a place. Helps me a lot. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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JPedde:
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And being open 2 new challenges when u get there RT @benkadamus: Q1: Theres an element of having a good "gut feeling" about a place. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q1: To grow professionally, it's important to find a supervisor/staff who complements your shortcomings. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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benkadamus:
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@jpkirch Q2: A mission statement says a lot. One thing to try and sort out in an interview is if it's really followed. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @TennesseeBelle: Q2: I utilized website, professional contacts, friends and network. I wanted to know a lot before moving my life #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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RT @djdw: Q1: educational philosophy is a big one. Is this sa group serious about student learning or is it just given lip service? #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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steve_campbell:
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Q2: Sometimes you just don't know what you need for a good fit and you need to just explore. Hindsight is 20/20. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q2: use your prof network to help determine the reputation of the institution. That can tell you if campus values=action. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q2: How do you best determine institutional values? What are your best resources before being hired? #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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willistj:
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100% RT @djdw Q1 educational philosophy is a big one. Is this sa group serious abt student learning or is it just given lip service? #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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howardsj:
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Q2: @The_SA_Blog Web sites are more forthcoming with helpful info. Also useful to read the student newpaper for culture cues #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Q2: Read the mission and watch to see if it is reflected in your interactions with staff and on campus. #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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I love Q2: I think they should be obviously stated or else they may not be widely agreed upon by dept/valued as much as necessary #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @steve_campbell: Q2: Sometimes you just don't know what you need for a good fit and you need to just explore. Hindsight is 20/20 #sachat |
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5:19 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Q 2: most important info is gained from the phone & on campus interviews #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q2 Values are outlined in the strategic plan, but it is hard to see if they are portrayed without getting to know people. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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djdw:
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what's Q2. I missed it! #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @howardsj: Q2: Web sites are more forthcoming with helpful info. Also useful to read the student newpaper for culture cues #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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Joangib:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Q2: Read the mission and watch to see if it is reflected in your interactions with staff and on campus. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @edcabellon: Q1: To grow professionally, it's important to find a supervisor/staff who complements your shortcomings. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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JPedde:
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Q2: @The_SA_Blog Web sites are more forthcoming with helpful info. Also useful to read the student newpaper for culture cues #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q2: Talk to students, current staff, alumni, professional colleagues to see if the letter and spirit of the law match. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@Brown_Melissa What kind of information do gather from those conversations? #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Q2: Student newspaper, ASK, call colleauges who may have experience there, the campus #fb page is a good idea to look at #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Q2: Talking with the current students and friends who worked at that institution helped my search. Site/FB/Twitter helps too! #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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KBHgal:
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Q2: Ask different folks what the inst values are and see how (if?) they match. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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lelambeth:
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Q2 I dig through the website, ask colleagues about the institution. "clicking" with the institution or staff/faculty is key for me. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q2: with mission, you can tell that some people just don't have a very specific one so you have to rely on other sources #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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slhealy:
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Q2: Read mission/vision/values ahead of time, ask how they're used in dept and around campus. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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jpkirch:
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@benkadamus Agreed. Figuring out if the campus/department actually lives it's mission is key. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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RagstoRitzMama:
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Q2 finding niche and connecting with it, looking at trends EVERYWHERE and work to adapt them into philosphy behind ops and admin. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q2: How do you best determine institutional values? What are your best resources before being hired? #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @debrasanborn: Q2 Values are outlined in the strategic plan, but hard to see if they are portrayed without getting to know people #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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Q1 - Ask for the interpersonal experience of your would be colleagues. How does your supervisor make you feel supported? #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Q2: important to listen during interviews: can you point out values just from conversation? And are do they even know what they are? #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Q2: Mission Statements, Websites, Utilize network connections (Tweeps!) If you don't like the front end, probably won't work. #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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jennpow23:
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Sad to missing the #sachat today considering the topic and that I am at an on campus interview right now! |
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5:20 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@The_SA_Blog Q2: I try to look at a budget when I can - do they put their money where their mouth is? #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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debrasanborn:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: MOD: Q2: How do you best determine institutional values? What are your best resources before being hired? #sachat |
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5:20 pm
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NikiRudolph:
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Q2: In interview, I ask same ? of multiple people to see consistency. #sachat. |
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5:21 pm
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kriscarr442:
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@jpkirch But how do you figure that out? #sachat |
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5:21 pm
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jpkirch:
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YouTube is an intersting source for determining student values from a campus. I learned a lot about my current campus that way. #sachat |
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5:21 pm
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jesstini85:
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Q2: Google the school, you can find interesting tidbits that alums/students/staff have out there on the net to find out more 2 #sachat |
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5:21 pm
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willistj:
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#sachat q2 asking students at the inst or colleagues. also looking at year end reports |
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5:21 pm
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samanthaledford:
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We went and visited the campus before my actual on-campus interview to get a good feel for the univ. and the city itself. #sachat |
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5:21 pm
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KBHgal:
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Here here! RT @NikiRudolph: Q2: In interview, I ask same ? of multiple people to see consistency. #sachat. |
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5:21 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @sarahhcraddock: Q2: I try to look at a budget when I can - do they put their money where their mouth is? #sachat |
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5:21 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Q2: do the interviewers/department team member even really know the values? do they use them in practice? #sachat |
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5:21 pm
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howardsj:
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I know that all of #sachat folks will be valuable resources when I go to search next. SA ppl always know others at various places! |
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5:21 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @NikiRudolph: Q2: In interview, I ask same ? of multiple people to see consistency. #sachat. |
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5:22 pm
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lelambeth:
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Q2: I also see how their students are represented in marketing, how the univ is involved in the community. #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Q2 I check out Class of 2013 XYZ Univ FBook pages, or other social media search results. More honest than newspapers #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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tbump:
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RT @cindykane: Q2: Institutional values emerge through allocation of resources #sachat Great Point-what is valued gets $$$ |
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5:22 pm
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jpkirch:
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@kriscarr442 You have to look for evidence in programs, stories from people on the campus, newspapers, networks, etc., to help. #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Q2: Actions are louder than words, what orgs are they involved with and what has the school produced (presentations, publications) #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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naspabookstore:
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TELL YOUR FRIENDS: Get 25% off in the NASPA Bookstore with code END10 now through 6/30 http://bit.ly/6NRVN0 #sachat #studentaffairs |
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5:22 pm
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willistj:
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me too! find the disconnect this way quickly RT@NikiRudolph Q2: In interview, I ask same ? of multiple people to see consistency. #sachat. - |
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5:22 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Q2: reaching out to my network and asking about their experiences with professionals from the campus in question #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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i also want to know how they orient employees - says a lot about their expectations and values #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q2: i also want to know how they orient employees - says a lot about their expectations and values #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @BeccaFick: Q2 I check out Class of 2013 XYZ Univ FBook pages, or other social media search results. More honest than newspapers #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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jpkirch:
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Absolutely Agree! RT @NikiRudolph: Q2: In interview, I ask same ? of multiple people to see consistency. #sachat. #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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Joangib:
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RT @KBHgal: Here here! RT @NikiRudolph: Q2: In interview, I ask same ? of multiple people to see consistency. #sachat. Great idea! |
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5:22 pm
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djdw:
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Q2: networking and asking peers/mentors. the tweeps you are getting to know in #sachat know a lot of institutions, so ask them! |
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5:22 pm
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mikesevery:
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rolling in late. where are we....? #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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samanthaledford:
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RT @tbump: RT @cindykane: Q2: Institutional values emerge through allocation of resources #sachat Great Point-what is valued gets $$ #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@BeccaFick I did that yesterday! Facebook is so telling #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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I interviewed at school where no students were included in process. Big no for me #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Informal sources can be useful in picking up on things that may not come up otherwise - news, wikipedia...just beware reliability. #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q2: Having thoughtful, prepared Q's ready for those you are interviewing with are important. Their answers are just the surface. #sachat |
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5:22 pm
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slhealy:
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@BeccaFick Do you look at the "unofficial" groups too, or just ones started by the univ? #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q2: I always ask for an org chart, 3 most recent student newspapers, annual reports of dept/division. #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @BeccaFick: Q2 I check out Class of 2013 XYZ Univ FBook pages, or other social media search results. More honest than newspapers #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Q2 Check out the people featured in brochures, compared with real institutional stats. Or better yet, what you see on campus #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Q2: Values are also very apparent in programs that the school initiates. Collabortive academic/student life programs, etc #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @JennaMagnuski: Q2: i also want to know how they orient employees - says a lot about their expectations and values #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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clconzen:
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Q2 I always take not if students play active role on search committee and in process, if not thats a red flag for me #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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cindykane:
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Yes!!RT @ChrisMacDen: I interviewed at school where no students were included in process. Big no for me #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q2: Also, when you ask a question in an interviews, have some idea what you want the answer to be before you ask it. #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@mikesevery Q2: How do you best determine institutional values? What are your best resources before being hired? #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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@StacyLOliver Do they normally give those to you without an issue? #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @OO_Dave_O: Q2: Values are also very apparent in programs that the school initiates. Collabortive academic/student life programs #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Also, if students are during breaks, that says something! RT @ChrisMacDen: interviewed where no students were included in process #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q2: i like reading strategic plans, if they have them - they're dense, but say a lot. at least check out an exec summary #sachat |
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5:23 pm
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slhealy:
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@ChrisMacDen Wow. That was my favorite part of on-campus interviews, meeting with students! #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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BeccaFick:
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@slhealy I look at both. Student perspective vs. university. Are students buying what we're selling? #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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willistj:
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Q2 look at memberships in prof orgs (ex #ACUI) see if they value those resources #SACHAT |
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5:24 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q2: I always ask for an org chart, 3 most recent student newspapers, annual reports of dept/division. #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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jpkirch:
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Great advice! RT @StacyLOliver: when you ask a question in interviews, have some idea what you want answer to be before you ask it. #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @ChrisMacDen I interviewed at school where no students were included in process. Big no for me #sachat //that would be a no for me too |
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5:24 pm
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steve_campbell:
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Q2: Always be networking. If you're interested in a company start building relationships with the ppl who work there. #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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benkadamus:
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RT @OO_Dave_O: Q2: Values are also very apparent in programs that the school initiates. Collabortive academic/student life programs #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q2: while I agree FB-ing is good, I take it with a grain of salt. I know i LOVE A&M, and it is an acquired taste for others #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q2 go to the school on a day when you dont interview and sit in the campus center for a little while #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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cindykane:
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I interviewed once where the staff weren't included in interviews for their own Director. Showed lack of value of their role... #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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lelambeth:
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I also like to see how the university treats the support staff:custodians, secretaries etc & see if they are included in interview. #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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jpkirch:
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The connection between what the university sells and what students believe the university has delivered is key. Ask questions! #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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mikesevery:
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@debrasanborn thanks. are we talking purely candidate perspective I assume? #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Agreed! RT @JennaMagnuski: Q2: i like reading strategic plans, if they have them - theyre dense, but say a lot. #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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djdw:
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Q2: Ask the hiring manager to describe how a particular program is conceived and planned. It will be very telling! #sachat |
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5:24 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @MikeJHamilton: Q2 go to the school on a day when you dont interview and sit in the campus center for a little while #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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jesstini85:
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@StacyLOliver wow, never thought 2 do that, interesting strategy! #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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#sachat |
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5:25 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @StacyLOliver Q2: when you ask a question in interviews, have idea what you want the answer to be before you ask it. #sachat // SO TRUE |
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5:25 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@MikeJHamilton To that end, talk to students who aren't in the process. Those students have been vetted. Find casual contact. #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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KBHgal:
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And pay attn to if you get to mt ppl w/out the boss. RT @ChrisMacDen I interviewed at school where no students were included. #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q2 @aludraeltanin check benefits package. says a lot about values (LGBT included?) and how valued employees are #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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tbump:
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#sachat how we run the interview process & treat each other is very telling... Q2 |
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5:25 pm
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willistj:
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q2 @chrismacden interviewed where the students were the only group w/o eval sheets on me. SPOKE VOLUMES to values! #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @djdw: Q2: Ask the hiring manager to describe how a particular program is conceived and planned. It will be very telling! #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Agreed! RT @MikeJHamilton: Q2 go to the school on a day when you dont interview and sit in the campus center for a little while #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Q2: I also want to see if these people are cool and fun t o be around! As you all know, we SA folks spend a lot of time at work! #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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RT @MikeJHamilton: Q2 go to the school on a day when you dont interview and sit in the campus center for a little while #sachat |
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5:25 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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@chrismacden I also like to talk to random students, as clearly we know that the students we talk to are strategically picked. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @KBHgal: And pay attn to if you get to mt ppl w/out the boss. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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@jesstini85 There are people in #sachat who have been subject to those requests in my previous searches. They still speak to me. :) #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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jesstini85:
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great! RT @StacyLOliver: Q2: Also, when u ask a ? in an interviews, have some idea what you want the answer to be before you ask it. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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jpkirch:
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Great process question! RT @djdw: Ask the hiring mgr to describe how particular program is conceived and planned...very telling! #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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Joangib:
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RT @cindykane: I interviewed once where the staff weren't in interviews for their Director. Showed lack of value #sachat Bad news! |
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5:26 pm
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howardsj:
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Q1/2: Being in #AcAd, it is important to know how SA & AA interact. That is sometimes hard to find out in interview #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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slhealy:
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One on-campus I had brought me in a day early to attend a program on campus. Saw values/staff/students in action. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: @MikeJHamilton To that end, talk to students who aren't in the process. Those students have been vetted. Find casual contact. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q2: when you ask a question in an interviews, have some idea what you want the answer to be before you ask it. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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mrskeegin:
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@studentlifeguru Agreed! I have to feel that connection by the end of the visit. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@mikesevery More about how do we know our personal values align with the institution's #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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@studentlifeguru agreed! I knew I fit in with ppl that became coworkers during "off" parts like tours, meals, etc... #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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lynnellison:
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Can't believe that there are programs that don't get student feedback! It would never occur to me to NOT get their feedback. #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@chellrene oh I'm the RD in Belk right now!!! AWESOME! :) #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q2: Pay attention to communication. Got e-mails from an employer between 1 &* 4 a.m. consistently. What does that say about culture? #sachat |
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5:26 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Q2: Might ask "Do you play everyday?" #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@lelambeth Let's face it, those people run the dept more than the director :) #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @slhealy: One on-campus I had brought me in a day early to attend a program on campus. Saw values/staff/students in action. #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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RT @JeannetteMarie: Q2: Might ask "Do you play everyday?" #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q2: when you ask a question in an interviews, have some idea what you want the answer to be before you ask it. #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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Joangib:
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RT @JennaMagnuski: Q2 @aludraeltanin check benefits package. says a lot about values (LGBT included?) #sachat Agreed for Big picture |
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5:27 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @MikeJHamilton: Q2 go to the school on a day when you dont interview and sit in the campus center for a little while #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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jpkirch:
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@lynnellison And that is why you are a stellar professional! #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Q2: Additionally- when you are interviewing, be aware of the questions asked of you. Sometimes they imply direction/need/values #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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slhealy:
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@StacyLOliver Uh oh, almost all my emails are between 10pm and 3am. #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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chellrene:
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Q2: DOn't neglect your personal life, check out the life outside campus and what your colleagues are like outside the office #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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laurapasquini:
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Q2: Have an informal chat with current students, staff & faculty before or after the interview. Get an idea about campus vibe. #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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AndreaHart:
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Hey all! Dropping in after my meeting ran oh-so-late! Whoo hoo #sachat |
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5:27 pm
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jpkirch:
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@JennaMagnuski - great comment about checking benefits package to see values in action! #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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@willistj that does speak volumes! #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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lelambeth:
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@lynnellison Same here! Students in interviews gives them experience and keeps our stakeholders involved. #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @jpkirch: The connection between what the university sells & what students believe the university has delivered is key. Ask ?s! #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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mrskeegin:
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Pay attention to how they treat you as an interviewee. Attitude, actions, words all say something. #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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@TenesseBelle HAHA- that's what those tours/meals are designed to do. Make you comfortable- but stay professional! #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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slhealy:
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Hey, @AndreaHart! Nice to "see" you. :) #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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jpkirch:
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Ask for a student to give you the tour of campus. Even if they're "vetted", their answers to questions can be revealing. #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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benkadamus:
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@OO_Dave_O This is very, very true. You can pretty easily see what is valued by what is asked and what attention it's given. #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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It's definitely important to have spent quality time understanding your own values before attempting to quiz others on theirs. #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @debrasanborn: @mikesevery More about how do we know our personal values align with the institution's #sachat |
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5:28 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Q3: So despite all the research, you're in a bad institutional fit. What are your first steps to correcting the situation? #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@jpkirch thanks! #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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jpyatte:
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I tried to walk around and chat with students while on-campus, just to see if what the admin was saying played out on campus. #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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KBHgal:
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This joint is hopping but I have to run. Can't wait to see the entire transcript. #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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I've always asked to stay on campus rather than a hotel for interviews so I could explore and see the real deal. #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@StacyLOliver another great point. tells us about culture of institution and possible expectations from employer #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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lelambeth:
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@OO_Dave_O Absolutely! While I answer questions I analyze what they are really wanting to know - and what their focus/priority is. #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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jpkirch:
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Pictures are also telling. Check out the on-line photos of the administration, and of brochures for students. Values in action. #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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@DebraSanborn @mikesevery knowing MY values is as important as knowing the institution's values. What do I want? #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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Joangib:
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Q3: That is tough. Depends on what the mismatch is #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q3: Speak up and tell people what you need. Oftentimes, silence is an issue. We simply don't ask. #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Q3 May be a bad instituional fit, but can you find a better department or supervisor fit? #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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RT @OO_Dave_O: Q2: when you are interviewing, be aware of the questions asked of you. Sometimes they imply direction/need/values #sachat |
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5:29 pm
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lynnellison:
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Q3: I waited mine out and it eventually became a good fit (staff changes). But, that's not for everyone. #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Q3 is a GREAT question. Can't wait to read the responses and pass them on in class tonight #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q3 my worst fear #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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mrskeegin:
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Q3: Ask myself, "What can I gain from this position?" "What will I learn, be able to take with me?" #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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KBHgal:
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Q3: Do not be afraid to leave. Your health/prof experiences are more impt than staying someplace b/c it'll look bad on the resume. #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: Q3: Speak up and tell people what you need. Oftentimes, silence is an issue. We simply don't ask. #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q3: Bad fit. Update your resume, refresh your network. You cannot always change their culture, but you can change your own. #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Q3 Assess it :) Why is this a bad fit, can I correct it by making personal changes? Is there room to grow/change how I feel? Allies? #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@The_SA_Blog Q3: Determine what's changable, what's non negotiable, and if it's worth the fight. #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @NASPAtweets: Q3 May be a bad instituional fit, but can you find a better department or supervisor fitz #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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hiedcareercoach:
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Hey #sachat, checking in late. I always asked what people do outside of work. If inst. is bad @ encouraging balance, it'll show in answers |
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5:30 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Q3: Open communication about what is expected of me and what I expect and how can we meet each other where we are #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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jesstini85:
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@StacyLOliver oh, no I was interested in a postive way 2 ur strategy. think u really get a lot of good stuff in what u requested #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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AndreaHart:
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Q3 - Bad fit or not student affairs is a small field, you have to evaluate your commitments to the institution and NOT burn bridges! #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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SACohort2008:
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RT @MikeJHamilton: Q3 my worst fear #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Q3: Start with your supervisor. You hopefully made a connection with them initially that made you take the job. #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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ericstoller:
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While interviewing 4 a position, a committee member called the interview process "a hazing". Knew I didn't want 2 b there after tht #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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willistj:
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Q3 find colleagues there or else where to get postivie energy and relieve negative enegery #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @OO_Dave_O: Q2: Additionally- when you are interviewing, be aware of the questions asked of you. Sometimes they imply direction/need/values #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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Joangib:
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Q3: If departmental, agree with @jpkirch to ASK and speak up. If Institutional, bigger issue #sachat |
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5:30 pm
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cholbrook357:
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good point - is it bad enough to deal or must you move on RT @Joangib: Q3: That is tough. Depends on what the mismatch is #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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laurapasquini:
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@The_SA_Blog Q3: Assess professional goals & objectives - Talk to mentors/colleagues - Review your transition needs & options. #SAchat |
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5:31 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q3: The challenge is expectation vs. reality. Are the expecations fair? Realistic? Have they been articulated? Ar #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Q3: I never did well with this in non SA jobs so I'm interested to see what everyone says. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @Kathy_Petras: Q3: Start with your supervisor. You hopefully made a connection with them initially that made you take the job. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q3: The challenge is expectation vs. reality. Are the expectations fair? Realistic? Have they been articulated? Ar #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @JeannetteMarie: Q3:Open communication about what is expected of me and what I expect and how can we meet each other where we are #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @TennesseeBelle: Q3: The challenge is expectation vs. reality. Are the expecations fair? Realistic? Have they been articulated #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q3: Can you change your lens? Try on a new size? Bad fit may look better than alternatives. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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steve_campbell:
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RT @mrskeegin: Q3: Ask myself, "What can I gain from this position?" "What will I learn, be able to take with me?" #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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slhealy:
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Q3: No job yet, but grad school wasn't right fit at first. Had to find a dept I felt more comfortable/productive in. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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cindykane:
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@AndreaHart Agreed... leaving gracefully is an art and science! #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @TennesseeBelle: Q3: The challenge is expectation vs. reality. Are the expecations fair? Realistic? Have they been articulated? #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Q3: Make the best of it until you can transition to a new univ/position - let them know what you need and get involved outside work. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Q3: Chronicle of HIED and higheredjobs.com LOL! #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @KBHgal: Q3: Do not be afraid to leave. health/prof experiences are more impt than staying b/c it'll look bad on the resume. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @debrasanborn: Q3: Can you change your lens? Try on a new size? Bad fit may look better than alternatives. #sachat |
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5:31 pm
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lelambeth:
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Q3: I focus on where I do fit and what good impact I can make. I see how I could adapt, and stay motivated. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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willistj:
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YEP! RT @debrasanborn Q3: Update your resume, refresh ur network. You cant always change their culture but you can change your own. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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@OO_Dave_O I interviewed at women's college where they asked about 'lesbian sexual harrassment.' told me volumes #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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ericstoller:
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If in a spot where the fit isn't good, I look for cross campus collabs, mentors, etc. to help keep my spirit alive. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Well stated. RT @StacyLOliver: Q3: Tell ppl wht u need. dont assume that they know. Ask 4 help, new tasks, involvement. Use urvoice. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q3 you can learn from anything...depends on how bad the fit is i'd think #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@KBHgal thanks for throwing that out there, it almost seems like the BIG no-no and it scares me!!! #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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aSarahWood:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Its important to have spent time understanding your own values before attempting to quiz others on theirs. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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mikesevery:
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rare to get 100% fit. What are you willing to deal with and what is non-negotiable. RT @ChrisMacDen @DebraSanborn knowing MY values #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@Kathy_Petras What if you didn't get to choose the supervisor? What if they were hired after you? How does that alter the fit?
#sachat |
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5:32 pm
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RagstoRitzMama:
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Q3. Expectations are a great point. Are they realistic, is it you that expected it go one way, what can you do to make THAT happen. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @Kathy_Petras: Q3: Start with your supervisor. You hopefully made a connection with them initially that made you take the job. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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Working on this...RT @mrskeegin: Q3: Ask myself, "What can I gain from this position?" "What will I learn, be able to take with me?" #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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mrskeegin:
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Q3: Be accountable for the situation you've found yourself in. What can you do to help yourself deal? #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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benkadamus:
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Q3: I find that in careers, there is always a balance between what we feel we are called to do and what we are good at. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Find outlets in other areas/relationships or outside the position to balance yourself until you are able to move on. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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willistj:
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@Kathy_Petras assuming your supervisor isnt part of the bad fit. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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chellrene:
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Q3 - This happened to me and I did the best I could and then began searching for a new job. Was very open with supervisor about it. #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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NikiRudolph:
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Q3: Be part of solution. Help with hiring/training. Help rewrite of mission. Push conversations re: values. Get involved in cmtes #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Don't forget theplacementexchange.org =) RT @studentlifeguru: Q3: Chronicle of HIED and higheredjobs.com LOL! #sachat |
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5:32 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Q3: some experienced professionals would tell you to make a pro/con list - fit is one aspect of an individuals work situation #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q3: A mentor once told me that taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @mrskeegin: Q3: Ask myself, "What can I gain from this position?" "What will I learn, be able to take with me?" #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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I think Q3 depends on why its a bad fit - is it the supervisor, the institution or the department? #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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djdw:
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don't students know I'm trying to participate in #sachat when they stop in to fix roommate issues... :-P |
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5:33 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Q 3: Give it some time. See what you can change and how you can change. Then decide if you stay or go. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q3: Check yourself, too. Are you experiencing burnout? Are you taking enough time for self-care? Stress can alter your perspective. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@mikesevery...you are so smart. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @NikiRudolph: Q3: Be part of solution. Help with hiring/training. Help rewrite of mission. Push conversations re: values. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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steve_campbell:
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RT @samanthaledford: Q3: Make the best of it until you can transition to a new univ/position - let them know what you need #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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slhealy:
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I've been told "If you can survive 2 years here, you can survive anywhere." I think of it as personal strength building. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q3 I look for ways to make my experience meaniful and get the most I can out of it. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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@willistj true, but if I don't connect with the supervisor, I won't take the job. I need to know we are on the same page. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Good! RT @NASPAtweets: Don't forget theplacementexchange.org =) RT @studentlifeguru: Q3: Chronicle of HIED and higheredjobs.com LOL! #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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@StacyLOliver then when should you take the job? #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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BeccaFick:
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@StacyLOliver Suggestions for squeezing in more dates? Or just take the plunge? #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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RT @ericstoller: If in a spot where the fit isn't good, I look for cross campus collabs, mentors, etc. to help keep my spirit alive. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q3: What defines a bad "insitutional fit?" Sometimes our own pictures/expecations of the place may skew our perspectives. #curious #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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cindykane:
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Q3: Make a committment to squeeze every opportunity possible out of a bad situation while you job search #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @mikesevery: rare to get 100% fit. What are you willing to deal with and what is non-negotiable. RT @ChrisMacDen @DebraSanborn knowing MY values #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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samanthaledford:
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LOL RT @StacyLOliver: Q3: A mentor once told me that taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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Joangib:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q3: A mentor once told me that taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date #sachat Agreed! |
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5:33 pm
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benkadamus:
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Welcome to #sachat @mellyortendahl #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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Q3 - Evaluate what you really need or were actually looking for. You got what you interviewed for but was it what you truly wanted. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @KBHgal: Q3: Don't b afraid 2 leave. ur health/prof exps are more impt than staying someplace b/c it'll look bad on the resume. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @ericstoller: If in a spot where the fit isn't good, I look for cross campus collabs, mentors, etc. to help keep my spirit alive. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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#sachat Q3: focus on students, parts of institution/position/dept that do fit w/ your goals & values |
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5:33 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @mikesevery: rare to get 100% fit. What are you willing to deal with and what is non-negotiable. #sachat |
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5:33 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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RT @NikiRudolph: Q3: Be part of solution. Help with hiring/training. Help rewrite of mission. Push conversations re: values. Get involved in cmtes #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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kriscarr442:
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RT @debrasanborn What if you didn't get to choose the supervisor? What if they were hired after you? How does that alter the fit? #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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@DebraSanborn If there wasn't a supervisor already in the position, I might question taking the job. I still want that mentor. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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@jpkirch Q3 I found sometimes it gets better once you weather the storm. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @sarahhcraddock: @The_SA_Blog Q3: Determine what's changable, what's non negotiable, and if it's worth the fight. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @slhealy: Ive been told "If u can survive 2 years here, you can survive anywhere." I think of it as personal strength building. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@StacyLOliver Love that analogy. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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@MikeJHamilton There's no alternative, but recognize that neither of you know enough about each other to feel committed for life. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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lelambeth:
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q3: Even if it's a bad "fit" - there's a reason you took the job - focus on that and stick with it! Identify what drew you there #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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@MikeJHamilton It's just a job, not a lifelong commitment. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q3: A mentor once told me that taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date. #sachat hahaha |
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5:34 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Q3: @StacyLOliver - informational interviews, interviews, and a request to come back are all acceptable- 3 hits instead of 1 #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Loving what is being said today on #sachat. I can't wait to send the transcript to the rest of the cohort |
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5:34 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@slhealy I also think w/truly BAD fit, you shouldn't torture yourself for 2 yrs just to look good on resume. Be honest, move on. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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YES! RT @lelambeth: Q3: I focus on where I do fit and what good impact I can make. I see how I could adapt, and stay motivated. #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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slhealy:
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And you told me this! RT @StacyLOliver: "...Taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date." #sachat |
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5:34 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @debrasanborn What if you didnt get to choose the supervisor? What if they were hired after you? Get to know them, help them. #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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If a new supervisor is hired, I would hope that I would be part of that selection process. Ask if you get to help hire. #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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RT @JPedde: RT @slhealy: Ive been told "If u can survive 2 years here" -> Yep, as long as it doesn't completely break you down!! #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @StacyLOliver: @MikeJHamilton It's just a job, not a lifelong commitment. #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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cindykane:
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@Kathy_Petras @willistj I think the supervisor is such a key...I take on a lot of roles if the right leader is guiding me! #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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benkadamus:
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@JPedde I agree with this. You can hate your first year or two, but still learn a lot an even flourish. #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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KBHgal:
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@maddyfacepants I think ppl understand issues around fit and respect the decisions related to it. #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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mrskeegin:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q3: A mentor once told me that taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date. #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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kevincleary:
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Hi all! A little late, and mainly just lurking today - Studying for comps! Great convo!!! #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q3 we keep saying "2 years"...but in the upper levels, there's an expectation that you're a longer term hire #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@debrasanborn: @slhealy yes i think you are both right on with that! #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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ericstoller:
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I love to read the campus newspaper to see what life is like on campus. #SAChat |
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5:35 pm
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willistj:
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@Kathy_Petras I mention it cause I was reorg'd once w/in the 1st month of working. Dept head said nothing of it in the interview #sachat |
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5:35 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q3: A mentor once told me that taking a job after an on-campus is like getting married after a first date. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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lelambeth:
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@sarahhcradock Absolutely! Determine what would tip the balance in staying or looking for new opportunities #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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cholbrook357:
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I think how you deal w/bad fit is easier when you are more senior than when you are starting out Q3 #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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AndreaHart:
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@slhealy Hey Shannon!! Long time no see :) #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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I would rather take a chance on an interviewee that only had <1 year at an institution but knew what they wanted professionally. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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slhealy:
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I just wrote a blog about turning down an on-campus because I already knew it wasn't a good fit. That was difficult. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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lynnellison:
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@KBHgal It's all in how you make the transition out. It can be done gracefully. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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JPedde:
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@benkadamus - yea, and maybe even get to know other depts during those first year or two to maybe transfer to a better fit. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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A bad experience at the beginning (or in the middle) doesn't mean that it's not a good fit. I have good personal story. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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jpkirch:
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@ericstoller I'm also a fan of the local newspaper - gives you an idea about what the community thinks of the campus. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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RT @benkadamus: @JPedde I agree with this. You can hate your first year or two, but still learn a lot an even flourish. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Also, how do our social IDs play into how we select job? #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Q4: If you make the decision to move on, how do you articulate to future employers why you left? #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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But many make student affairs a career! RT RT @StacyLOliver: @MikeJHamilton It's just a job, not a lifelong commitment. #sachat |
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5:36 pm
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slhealy:
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@debrasanborn True. I need to remember that when I get out in the real world! #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@slhealy Being able to make the decision to turn down that interview demonstrates HUGE maturity. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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samanthaledford:
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Q: I barely made it two years at my last univ. but I grew a great deal and am a better pro. b/c of that experience. make lemonade! #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@lelambeth Sometimes even in looking for a new position, it rejuvenates what you're excited about at your current institution. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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jpkirch:
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Leave with grace, not on your face! RT@lynnellison: @KBHgal Its all in how you make the transition out. It can be done gracefully. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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lynnellison:
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@slhealy i've done that, too. Better to do it upfront than to waste everyone's time and money. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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mikesevery:
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I've negotiated on my principles before. fell apart fast. trust your gut. RT @JennaMagnuski: @mikesevery...you are so smart. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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slhealy:
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RT @The_SA_Blog MOD: Q4: If you make the decision to move on, how do you articulate to future employers why you left? #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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I was raised working class and did not think I could ask tough questions. Wad thankful for job #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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cindykane:
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Q4: Do most employers ask why a candidate is leaving their job? #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q4 i would think that being honest about a bad fit, and how it was hurting both you and the previous employer #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @ericstoller: I love to read the campus newspaper to see what life is like on campus. #SAChat |
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5:37 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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When I feel I've learned all I can at a place, then it is time to move on. I think that's honorable and easy to articulate. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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willistj:
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Q4 looking for growth, the next step, a good fit with personal and professional values. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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jpkirch:
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Remember - Student Affairs is the lifelong commitment, but one particular position may not be. #sachat |
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5:37 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @cindykane: Q4: Do most employers ask why a candidate is leaving their job? #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Q4 I would imagine being honest while not burning bridges is important. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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studentlifeguru:
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Try to help co-workers, etc. get what they want, and they, in turn will help you get what you want. Don't burn bridges. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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djdw:
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Q4: I am dying to hear what #sachat tweeps have to say on this! especially if you were in a bad environment. |
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5:38 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Q 3: With the truth but kindly stating it without taking bad about them #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@cindykane You may asked to explain a brief stay at a job or a gap on your resume. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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@JennaMagnuski Even if in upper level, if one experience is 2 yrs, it can be explained. If it's consistent, then there are issues #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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Q4: I think this is where you have to be REALLY careful to not burn bridges - you never know who knows who. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @SACohort2008: Q4 I would imagine being honest while not burning bridges is important. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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edcabellon:
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@NASPAtweets @StacyLOliver @MikeJHamilton I see #studentaffairs as more of a "lifestyle" than "commitment". We live our work. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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JPedde:
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Yes, be careful not to badmouth prev. situation @cindykane: Q4: Do most employers ask why a candidate is leaving their job? #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@SACohort2008 Great insight. It's a small field. Always have to mind our words. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q4: Honestly, in an appropriate way. RE: @jennamagnuski's approach. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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Q3 - Maintain perspective by reaching out to your network of colleagues at other institutions. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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slhealy:
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@The_SA_Blog I'm glad you think maturity. Hard to not think stupidity with my current back-at-square-one-ness. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @Brown_Melissa: Q 3: With the truth but kindly stating it without taking bad about them #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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benkadamus:
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@The_SA_Blog I think they do, but in a professional way. It isn't appropriate to ask a candidate to spill the dirt on another inst. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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samanthaledford:
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RT @studentlifeguru: Try to help co-workers,etc get what they want, and they will help you get what you want. Dont burn bridges. #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q4 Use elements of your emotional intelligence to articulate prior poor fit. Communicate your self-awareness and self-actualization #sachat |
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5:38 pm
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lelambeth:
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Q4: Communicate carefully, transparently, and without burning bridges unnecessarily. #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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jesstini85:
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Q4 never know exactly how to answer - can't wait for the replies on this one #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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slhealy:
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@lynnellison That's what I thought. If I wasn't excited, it would show. Disservice to both of us. #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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cholbrook357:
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Q4 - You need to be honest, but tactful - don't badmouth the previous place --they will probably verify your story #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q4: I'm honest about situation being challenging and not a good fit. I don't give details. Ever. Ever. Ever. #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Q4 Your current employers should know before you start searching that you are unhappy. Transparency is paramount in our small field! #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q4: there are kind ways to say that it just didn't work for you while preserving the bridges. #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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czymroz:
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@cindykane Q4: Every employer I've had if I left have asked me, but they then precede with you don't need to tell me #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @cholbrook357: Q4 - You need to be honest, but tactful - don't badmouth the previous place --they will probably verify your story #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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#sachat Q4: just like with a divorce "Things weren't going well. No one to "blame" but we wanted to part amicably." |
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5:39 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Q4: Tactfully. Never throw anyone under the bus regardless. Perhaps skills not utilized, lack of growth opp... #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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jpkirch:
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I've said, "This simply wasn't a good fit for me professionally" and "I am ready to contribute at a different level". Both are true #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @debrasanborn: Q4 Use elements of emotional intelligence to articulate poor fit. Communicate self-awareness & self-actualization #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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cholbrook357:
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@ cindykane #sachat - I have never NOT been asked. |
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5:39 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@cholbrook357 We always seem to forget about the reference check when we're answering a question like that! #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q4: I've left after a year, and I still love the place. I return for events and visit friends & students. Didn't fit at the time #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @LaurieABerry: Q4: there are kind ways to say that it just didn't work for you while preserving the bridges. #sachat |
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5:39 pm
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kevincleary:
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@DebraSanborn Sounding like Chickering! #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @JeannetteMarie: #sachat Q4: just like with a divorce "Things weren't going well. No one to "blame" but we wanted to part amicably." |
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5:40 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Trying to eat and #sachat is soooo harrrrrrrd |
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5:40 pm
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laurapasquini:
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@cindykane Yes they do - and they will ask your past employer during a reference check. #SAChat |
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5:40 pm
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JPedde:
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Q4: Say it was a good learning experience. Always spin negative situations into positive moments. #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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RT @jpkirch: I've said, "This simply wasn't a good fit for me professionally" and "I am ready to contribute at a different level". Both are true #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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Every time I think I'm ready to leave, I get a new twist on job responsibilities via restructure of dept. Keeping it interesting! #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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djdw:
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Q4 Do you even have to articulate the bad fit? Can't you focus on your growth and development and new challenges? #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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CareyComments:
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Bummed to miss #sachat! Looking forward to transcript, as it's a great and super-timely topic! |
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5:40 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @lelambeth: Q4: Communicate carefully, transparently, and without burning bridges unnecessarily. #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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we sure are using a lot a marriage/divorce analogies. what does that say about our perspective? #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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Joangib:
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Q4: It is easier if new job is a step up- ready for a new challenge. Lateral moves require more tactful honesty. #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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clconzen:
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Q4 I explain how job was a poor fit and explain without speaking poorly of that institution #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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mrskeegin:
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RT @NikiRudolph: Q4: You can always say what you have learned at present inst, but that you are looking for X, Y, & Z in next role #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q4: the most important part to me is to honor the institution and respect differences. either of us will be helped by hateful words #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @mikesevery: I've negotiated on my principles before. fell apart fast. trust your gut. #sachat |
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5:40 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@maddyfacepants Trying to do ANYTHING and #sachat is hard!! |
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5:41 pm
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chellrene:
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RT @cholbrook357: Q4 - You need to be honest, but tactful - don't badmouth the previous place --they will probably verify your story #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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@willistj That would not be good to experience. It's worth mentioning. Gives new ideas on questions to be asked. #sachat Thanks for that! |
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5:41 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@kevincleary Oops. #studentaffairsgeek #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q4: Had an employer call me out for use of the word "challenging." Asked me to more specifically define the fit. #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Q4: use positive language to turn why you are leaving into why you will rock at a new place #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Looks like we are all in agreement: Student affairs is about building bridges, not burning them #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q4 how you handle the question on why you left when it was a bad fit says volumes to your potential employer. #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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mikesevery:
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Mom wisdom: close the door gently when you leave. know this cold RT @cindykane: Q4: Do employers ask why candidate is leaving? #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @JennaMagnuski: we sure are using a lot a marriage/divorce analogies. what does that say about our perspective? #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Q4 Also need to acknowledge that bad fit may not be the institutions fault, but our own for not recognizing it earlier. #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @TennesseeBelle: Q4: the most important part to me is to honor the institution and respect differences. #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q4 how honest should you be? my reasons are new exp after 3 years and creating a better sit for my family(wife commutes a lot now) #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @djdw: Do you have to articulate bad fit? Can't you focus on growth & development & new challenges? #sachat / i think u have to do both |
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5:41 pm
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lelambeth:
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Q4: there's a balance of being truthful and being tactful... priority is placing yourself in a healthy environment. #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@StacyLOliver that's hard, how did you specifically define it?! #sachat |
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5:41 pm
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jpkirch:
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Ditto! RT @cholbrook357: @cindykane #sachat - I have never NOT been asked. #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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maloneev:
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RT @djdw: Q4 Do you even have to articulate the bad fit? Cant you focus on your growth and development and new challenges? #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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jesstini85:
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@sjiwamiya I tried finding it, but we're moving so fast today...lol It was along the lines of how do you answer the ? why you left #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@StacyLOliver or is that too specific? :) #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@djdw You will be asked. I have left positions in my career for bad fit. Was asked each time. Be prepared to discuss. #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @NASPAtweets: Q4 Also need to acknowledge that bad fit may not be institutions fault but our own for not recognizing it earlier #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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mikesevery:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: RT @TennesseeBelle: Q4: the most important part to me is to honor the institution and respect differences. #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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lelambeth:
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@StacyLOliver: YES - being too honest in details can bite you later (or right away). #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @TennesseeBelle: Q4: the most important part to me is to honor the institution and respect differences. #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @lelambeth: balance of being truthful and being tactful... priority is placing self in healthy environment. #sachat // so important! |
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5:42 pm
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MalloryEmerson:
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It's been a blast #sachat, but I'm off to host my first ever webinar...great fun! |
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5:42 pm
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laurapasquini:
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Q4: Tell your new employer that the past job wasn't the best fit - you need a different challenge/opportunity/experience. #SAChat |
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5:42 pm
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kriscarr442:
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Q4: you don't have to tell them why it was a bad fit, but tell them what you are looking for elsewhere instead, be positive #sachat |
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5:42 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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@maddyfacepants I gave examples of situations that challenged my values and beliefs. He appreciated candor. Still in their process. #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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slhealy:
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@jesstini85 I know, everytime the chat updates there's scrolling involved! #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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KBHgal:
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True!!!! RT @lynnellison: @KBHgal It's all in how you make the transition out. It can be done gracefully. #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q4 you can also have great institutional fit but poor departmental fit...which would also be a good refining point #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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benkadamus:
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RT @mellyortendahl: Honesty is important, but integrity is as well. SA is a small world, it's important not to throw anyone under the bus #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Q4: When I leave it's to further my prof. growth. My current supervisor is aware of that now. I value being able to share with him. #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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Joangib:
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Q4: Someone here said don't give details...that was good advice @StacyLOliver? #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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@JennaMagnuski I think it is a lot like @EdCabellon said -it's a lifestyle in that it is a relationship that goes with us everywhere #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @kriscarr442: Q4: you don't have to tell them why it was a bad fit, but tell them what you are looking for elsewhere, be positive #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q4 finding the right frame for the answer is key. Fit is many things. A lot of times we leave to grow. #sachat |
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5:43 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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As an employer if someone was honest about the fit and said it was not allowing you to grow, I would reward someone's honesty #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @JennaMagnuski: Q4 you can also have great institutional fit but poor departmental fit..which would also be a good refining point #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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SACohort2008:
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RT @NASPAtweets: Q4 Also need to acknowledge that bad fit may not be institutions fault but our own for not recognizing it earlier #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@StacyLOliver a place that can appreciate honesty is a good place indeed. #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @sjiwamiya: As an employer if someone was honest about the fit and said it was not allowing you to grow, I would reward honesty #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Q4: before bmc, I was at all jobs 2 years due to my being diagnosed HIV+. stayed here 6 years to counteract that #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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laurapasquini:
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Strategies for Resigning with Class http://www.quintcareers.com/resigning_job.html #SAchat Be professional & don't burn any bridges. |
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5:44 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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RT @LaurieABerry: Q4 finding the right frame for the answer is key. Fit is many things. A lot of times we leave to grow. #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Q4 .Turn talking about why old institution didn't work into ? of would I find this here. Bad fit does not make first place bad. #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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jpkirch:
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Many times when we feel that friction, we have outgrown the position. Recognize this and move on. #sachat |
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5:44 pm
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Dramanique:
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Rcv'd results on #StrengthsQuest survey my stdts took n class lastFall. Results sho they likeSQ &can C relevance 4 it n their lives #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@NASPAtweets YES! All of my bad fit career decisions were my own doing making decisions too quickly and for wrong reasons. Q4 #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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You know, if the place asking you doens't appreciate your honesty about last job (within reason) maybe its not a good fit #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: Many times when we feel that friction, we have outgrown the position. Recognize this and move on. #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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djdw:
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@debrasanborn so, is the bad fit only if it's a short stay? #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @jpkirch: Many times when we feel that friction, we have outgrown the position. Recognize this and move on. #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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lelambeth:
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Q4 if you're in a situation where you can't be transparent w/ supervisor/interviewers, you need to talk to HR/other support systems. #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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Dramanique:
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SQ survey results also showed they liked how I taught SQ & the activities I used in class #StrengthsQuest #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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mikesevery:
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Q4 put together your pro plan you can leave when you need to leave not when you have to leave (why ride it into the ground?) #sachat |
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5:45 pm
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slhealy:
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Placement confs were strange, schools knew who they wanted, hard to realize you might not be that person, even if you're great. #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Q5: How do you create and maintain a support network if you're in a bad situation? How do you use them moving forward? #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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jpkirch:
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RT @mikesevery: Q4 put together your pro plan you can leave when you need to leave not when you have to leave #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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jesstini85:
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@jpkirch can u ellaborate on what u meant in ur last tweet? :) what friction? #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@djdw Bad fits can drag on and on. Hopefully you change your lens to make it an least mediocre fit. #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @slhealy: hard to realize you might not be that person, even if you're great. #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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willistj:
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@jpkirch agreed impt to know when its time to leave a position due to outgrowing it #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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lelambeth:
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If transitions aren't smooth & it's tense, keep your eyes on your goals and keep positive ppl around you #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@slhealy yeah, it is definitely hard to accept that a certain job/institution might not be the one for you. taught to be marketable #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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ajs86:
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joining late but excited to lurk and learn on such an important topic! #sachat |
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5:46 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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@debrasanborn and I wonder how many new professionals take their first job, especially in this economy, because it is first offer #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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sarahhcraddock:
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@slhealy Placement conferences are great for the "sexy" candidates, not for everyone #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Mentors, former colleagues, and friendships outside work are going to carry you thru tough spots. #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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Q5 #sachat, professional orgs, others on campus |
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5:47 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q5 find folks that can help you focus on what you can control and build from that point. #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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benkadamus:
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Q5: Keeping contacts with former colleagues for support is a must. They know you, your skill set, and your ability. #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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jpkirch:
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Q5: Use your networks outside of the institution to help you clarify the issues. Their objectivity is often insightful. #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Mentors, former colleagues, and friendships outside work are going to carry you thru tough spots. #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @benkadamus: Q5: Keeping contacts with former colleagues for support is a must. They know you, your skill set, and your ability #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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Q5 - Use those other relationships to remind you of your strengths and connect to new opportunities. #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q5 not in a bad situation, but we created a "group" of young professionals on campus that go out together once or twice a month #sachat |
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5:47 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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@The_SA_Blog Q5: Colleaugues can make a bad situation fun, esp if you are all in similar situation #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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jpkirch:
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Agreed - focus on what you can control. RT @LaurieABerry: Q5 find folks that can help you focus on what you can control and build. #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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slhealy:
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Q5: How do you create and maintain a support network if you're in a bad situation? How do you use them moving forward? #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Q 5: Local professional organizations, #sachat, friends outside of campus who can offer a different perspectives, long term friends |
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5:48 pm
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cholbrook357:
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Q5 Find others on campus who share your values but not your secrets #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Q5: It's my support network who helped me recognize that the situation was bad, that it wasn't necessarily a reflection of me. #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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maloneev:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Q5 - Use those other relationships to remind you of your strengths and connect to new opportunities. #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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jesstini85:
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@NASPAtweets I've been guilty of that once or twice... #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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djdw:
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Q5: Keep in touch with the coworkers who have moved on, but were a positive influence, where your values were well-aligned. #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @cholbrook357: Q5 Find others on camus who share your values but not your secrets #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @BruinsAhYeah: Mentors, former colleagues, and friendships outside work are going to carry you thru tough spots. #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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Joangib:
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Q5: Look outside your department if that is were the friction is. There is a whole wide college/uni out there #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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jpkirch:
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Excellent! RT @MikeJHamilton: Q5...we created a "group" of young professionals on campus that go out together once or twice a month #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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BSCORO:
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RT @edcabellon: Hi all, Ed Cabellon, Director of the @BSCcampuscenter at lovely Bridgewater State College (MA). Big fan of sunny days. :-) #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Agreed!!!//RT @cholbrook357: Q5 Find others on campus who share your values but not your secrets #sachat |
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5:48 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @cholbrook357: Q5 Find others on campus who share your values but not your secrets #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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benkadamus:
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RT @mellyortendahl: Q5:Creating a positive connection with a few key people is essential, professional relationships are necessary in moving foward #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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slhealy:
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@maddyfacepants I'm hoping it's for the best. Hard to swallow when it was originally a top choice institution. #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Q5: You should use colleagues from other institutions and be careful about "complaining" within department. #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q5 I also look for projects that keep me interested that keep me invested in my job as a whole #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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@jesstini85 are there ways that we can limit this? I'm thinking particularly from an org perspective... #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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jpkirch:
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You need both personal and professional support networks. Sometimes these are the same, sometimes they aren't. #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: This book is a fantastic resource for identifying institutional values/fit: http://bit.ly/cSJW2G #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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laurapasquini:
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Q5: Support networks dev in grad programs, jobs, conf & online (#SAchat, anyone?) Keep positive & connect to those fantastic networks! |
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5:49 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Bad situations have forced me to seek balance in life. Family, friends, social life #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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Q5, I always wonder what my personal responsibility is in a "bad environment". Pointing fingers at the bad environment doesn't help #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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slhealy:
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@sarahhcraddock Yeah, I don't think I was one of the "sexy" candidates at conferences. :) #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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mrskeegin:
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Q5: I've always kept active in my prof. org and call on colleagues to keep me honest about my good points & weaknesses. #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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mikesevery:
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good super has prodev convo early. you're not staying here forever. RT @kathy_petras (1/2) #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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Joangib:
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Q5: Get involved in professional associations to keep you motivated about your job #sachat |
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5:49 pm
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rossmcmillan:
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Being professional in your response to these questions has never hurt, it isn't just this position but your reputation and integrity #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @jpkirch: You need both personal and professional support networks. Sometimes these are the same, sometimes they aren't. #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: You need both personal and professional support networks. Sometimes these are the same, sometimes they aren't. #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Q5: You should also find those who you trust and share values/goals with to confide in, at same institution or not. #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q5: Always look to grow your professional network of colleagues and friends. Lean on them when times are tough and pay it forward. #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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jesstini85:
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know the right ppl 2 trust RT @The_SA_Blog: RT @cholbrook357: Q5 Find others on camus who share your values but not your secrets #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q5: using networks to find additional outlets and opportunities can make a situation seem better by adding things you enjoy #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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jpkirch:
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Truly inspired! RT @cholbrook357: Q5 Find others on campus who share your values but not your secrets #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Use #sachat friends!!!! :) |
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5:50 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @mrskeegin: Q5: I've always kept active in my prof org and call on colleagues to keep me honest about my good points & weaknesses #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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I feel like finding a support group is more retroactive, opposed to a proactive solution. #sachat - that's just me though. |
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5:50 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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Q5 - Connect with fellow staff via common interests or challenge yourself to adopt new interests to bond on some level #sachat |
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5:50 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@maddyfacepants #SAChat is always here as a support network. |
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5:51 pm
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edcabellon:
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Q5: Always look to grow your professional network of colleagues and friends. Lean on them when times are tough and pay it forward. #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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slhealy:
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Totally agree, they've been great during my job search process! RT @maddyfacepants: Use #sachat friends!!!! :) |
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5:51 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@sjiwamiya hopefully you've already built one to fall back on #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q5 we read "3 signs of a miserable job" as an office and discussed, good book to preface a discussion about change #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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maloneev:
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RT @mellyortendahl: Creating a positive connection with a few key people is essential, professional relationships are necessary #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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jpkirch:
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Find solice in your activities outside of work, too. These can hep you refocus. #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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djdw:
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@sjiwamiya We should all be developing support groups regardless of whether we're in a good or bad situation. #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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RT @StacyLOliver: Q5: It's my support network who helped me recognize that the situation was bad, that it wasn't necessarily a reflection of me. #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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RT @ChrisMacDen: Bad situations have forced me to seek balance in life. Family, friends, social life #sachat // that's a good lesson though |
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5:51 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Q5: Research to see if #sachat folks are connected via LinkedIn http://bit.ly/dD1h6u and ask about the institution :) #sachat #shamelessplug |
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5:51 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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@sjiwamiya - I think developing a support network is VERY proactive, given you never know when you're going to need to rely on it. #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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mikesevery:
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(2/2) RT @kathy_petras how do I set you up for success in the next step while accomp work now? That convo is key for both sides #sachat |
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5:51 pm
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debrasanborn:
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@NASPAtweets Exactly. And why sometimes you need to change your "fit" view so you can pay student loans and buy groceries. #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q5: finding volunteer opportunities with other depts helps at work. personally, I always need the "person" who will just listen! #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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jesstini85:
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@NASPAtweets I'm not quite sure. I'm going to have to think on that ? & get back to u after the chat..? #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: Find solace in your activities outside of work, too. These can hep you refocus. #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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@OO_Dave_O so shameless... #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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@maddyfacepants it was the BEST lesson! #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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@djdw I didn't say support groups aren't important - I just think support groups to "counter" a (-) environment "can" be more (-) #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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jpkirch:
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@sjiwamiya Building the support network is proactive. Waiting to find one after the fact is reactive. #sachat |
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5:52 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Good point about balance. Sometimes that's the problem in itself #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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mikesevery:
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absolutely RT @edcabellon: Q5: Always grow your pro network. Lean on them when times are tough, pay it forward. #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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Q5: I do many things across the Div. of SA here and it makes me feel more whole and complete...making me a happier professional! #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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SACohort2008:
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Agreed! RT @jpkirch: Find solace in your activities outside of work, too. These can hep you refocus. #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @maddyfacepants: Good point about balance. Sometimes that's the problem in itself #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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slhealy:
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My answer to Q5 would be finding @stacyloliver in a parking lot and getting a pep talk and a hug from her. #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@sjiwamiya you shouldn't get caught up in groupthink with others who feel its a bad fit #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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@jesstini85 fabulous. LMK. I was lucky. had support network I fell back on for few months w/o a job, but not always the case #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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mrskeegin:
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RT @maddyfacepants: Good point about balance. Sometimes that's the problem in itself #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Q5 May I introduce you to #sachat and your new support network? Glad that you all are here! #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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RT @slhealy: My answer to Q5 would be finding @stacyloliver in a parking lot and getting a pep talk and a hug from her. #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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ChrisMacDen:
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Off to meeting, bye folks! #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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Q5 i created opportunities to advise student groups also. No matter how the rest of my job is they always get me excited. #sachat |
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5:53 pm
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JPedde:
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RT @mikesevery: absolutely RT @edcabellon: Q5: Always grow your pro network. Lean on them when times are tough, pay it forward. #sachat |
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5:54 pm
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cholbrook357:
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Definitely! RT @jpkirch: @sjiwamiya Building the support network is proactive. Waiting to find one after the fact is reactive. #sachat |
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5:54 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @slhealy: My answer to Q5 would be finding @stacyloliver in a parking lot and getting a pep talk and a hug from her. #sachat |
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5:54 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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Groupthink is evil people! Be careful when you choose your support group. But do HAVE a support group. #sachat |
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5:54 pm
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jpkirch:
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Hello network! RT @slhealy: My answer to Q5 would be finding @stacyloliver in parking lot and getting a pep talk and hug from her. #sachat |
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5:54 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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I'm always available for pep talks and hugs. #sachat #parkinglotpeptalk :) |
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5:54 pm
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collinz:
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RT @The_SA_Blog How do u determine if your professional goals align w/ those of your institution? What's your best fit? #SACHAT 12 & 6p cts |
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5:54 pm
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tbump:
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RT @TennesseeBelle: Q5: I do many things across the Div. of SA here and it makes me feel more whole and complete...making me a happier professional! #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@maddyfacepants Great point, Maddy -- find people who can be objective and supportive without making things worse! #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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@maddyfacepants my point exactly about groupthink - sometimes people bond over "negativity" and that can be pretty scary at times #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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djdw:
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RT @maddyfacepants: Groupthink is evil people! Be careful when you choose your support group. But do HAVE a support group. #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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does @stacyloliver appear magically in random parking lots when you need for a pep talk and hug? #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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Joangib:
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Off to a meeting. Thanks for a great #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Q5 grow your professional network UP and out. Don't use colleagues (only) to complain, but find insight from seasoned pros too. #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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@MikeJHamilton absolutely. she is magical #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Q5 know who you can go to for honest feedback. Support is good but sometimes I need a dose of reality. #sachat |
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5:55 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@StacyLOliver i don't know what i do without our faux-parking lot with unicorns and ponies. and skittles. #twitterparking #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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jpkirch:
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As @tbump always says - focus on where you add value. You'll feel much more fulfilled. #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: As we bring #SAchat to a close, please share your final thoughts. |
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5:56 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @LaurieABerry: Q5 know who you can go to for honest feedback. Support is good but sometimes I need a dose of reality. #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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slhealy:
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@MikeJHamilton Sometimes it requires driving two hours. But well worth it. :) #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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JennaMagnuski:
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gotta go - meeting time! #salove #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: As @tbump always says - focus on where you add value. You'll feel much more fulfilled. #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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lelambeth:
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@maddyfacepants Groupthink has the power for good and evil :) It can get clicky and unhealthy easily. #sachat |
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5:56 pm
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mikesevery:
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balance to me is a pendulum. some days it's all work and has to be but must be allowed to swing back when you have needs too #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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slhealy:
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Final thought: I really had to know myself in the job search process, and that required reevaluation of self and schools sometimes. #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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RT @mikesevery: balance to me is a pendulum. some days it's all work and has to be but must be allowed to swing back when you have needs too #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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@jpkirch building a solution to address the neg env is proactive, I think to build a solution is reactive #sachat I hope you are well Julie! |
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5:57 pm
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djdw:
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Great post by Dean Dad on The Toxic Workplace Test and what to do - http://bit.ly/bOPsYT #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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JeannetteMarie:
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Meeting - thank you #sachat people for a great conversation! |
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5:57 pm
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cholbrook357:
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SO true! It needs to balance over time, not each day/week RT @mikesevery: balance to me is a pendulum. some days it's all work #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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@lelambeth you're right. groupthink is like alcohol. don't overdo it! #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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BeccaFick:
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Final: Know what you are looking for, do your research (best you can) and be ready to adjust when its not what you expected. #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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jpkirch:
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Agreed - it's the long term balance that will make or break you. RT @mikesevery: balance to me is a pendulum. #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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lelambeth:
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final thoughts: Maintain your sense of self. Keep priorities in your life. Strive for balance - seek support and pay it forward. #sachat |
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5:57 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @slhealy: Final thought: I really had to know myself in the job search process and that required reevaluation of self and schools #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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sorry, I mean building a support group #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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MikeJHamilton:
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FT: there is a learn/growth opp in every situation,sometimes that requires turning off the "snark" & looking 4 it #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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RagstoRitzMama:
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At the end of the day the only way to be satisfied with the day is to ask yourself is if you did all that you could. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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cindykane:
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Final words of @cholbrook357: "find people who will share your values, not your secrets." <---my VP knows her stuff, #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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Kathy_Petras:
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Know who you are & what you want & what you are capable of. Ask the Qs. Go with your gut. Make a difference. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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Brown_Melissa:
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Final Thought: Know yourself and don't be afraid to turn down an interview if the fit isn't right. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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TennesseeBelle:
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i can't believe the hour is over! what a great dialogue!! #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @lelambeth: Maintain your sense of self. Keep priorities in your life. Strive for balance - seek support and pay it forward. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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mrskeegin:
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RT @BeccaFick:Know what you are looking for, do your research (best you can) and be ready to adjust when its not what you expected. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @MikeJHamilton: FT: there is a learn/growth opp in every situation,sometimes that requires turning off the "snark" & looking 4 it #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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chellrene:
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Final Thought: Fit is an individual thing, only u can determine what's best 4 u. Don't be afraid to ask or change if it's not there. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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trying to type too fast, I am getting a lot of heat from my comments...sorry guys. #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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jesstini85:
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oh my goodness, done already? bah! it went 2 quickly. FINAL THOUGHTS: know urself - good & bad, look 4 change when u need growth 1/2 #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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NASPAtweets:
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Final. Do as much due diligence beforehand and hopefully you'll find the right fit before you get there! #sachat |
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5:58 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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FINAL: know self, do research, be honest w others if there's a problem, be honest in interviews. Hopefully u find a match! #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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Final Thoughts: Hanging in my office since 2004: You are not defined by this place or this time. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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mikesevery:
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RT @Kathy_Petras: Know who you are & what you want & what you are capable of. Ask the Qs. Go with your gut. Make a difference. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @NASPAtweets: Final. Do as much due diligence beforehand and hopefully you'll find the right fit before you get there! #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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debrasanborn:
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Final thought: Too thine own self be true. (Bill Shakespeare knew his stuff) Right job at the right school is waiting for you. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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OH, and always find us at #sachat for support :) |
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5:59 pm
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mikesevery:
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RT @Brown_Melissa: Final Thought: Know yourself and don't be afraid to turn down an interview if the fit isn't right. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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slhealy:
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Thanks to all who shared stories and advice! This is always such a motivating hour. See you tonight! #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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jpkirch:
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Check yourself for self-care imbalance, seek out clarification on expectations, use support networks, and ask for what you need. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @Kathy_Petras: Know who you are & what you want & what you are capable of. Ask the Qs. Go with your gut. Make a difference. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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Final Thought: grow your network and relationships. Find at least one who will be brutally honest when needed. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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deanmamta:
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the right fit is REALLY like trying on shoes-many jobs are attractive, but you will know right fit when you don't have blisters. #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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edcabellon:
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Final Thought: Finding out if you "fit" is all about perspective. Maybe you need time to grow a little before you can fit :-) #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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OO_Dave_O:
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Final: Knowledge is power. seekers: Know yourself, research the institution/interviewers. Employed- self awareness & pros-cons #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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cholbrook357:
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RT @cindykane: Final words of @cholbrook357: "find people who will share your values, not your secrets." <---my VP knows her stuff, #sachat |
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5:59 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @Kathy_Petras: Know who you are & what you want & what you are capable of. Ask the Qs. Go with your gut. Make a difference. #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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maddyfacepants:
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It seems like an hour is too long at first, but then you get sucked in and #sachat is over before you know it! |
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6:00 pm
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djdw:
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RT @debrasanborn: Too thine own self be true. (Bill Shakespeare knew his stuff) Right job at the right school is waiting for you. #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @cholbrook357: In end, care for you and don't stay where it doesn't fit for too long - you won't be good for anyone if you do #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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BeccaFick:
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RT @edcabellon: Finding out if you "fit" is all about perspective. Maybe you need time to grow a little before you can fit :-) #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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BruinsAhYeah:
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FT: Know thyself (and be open to learning). Don't sacrifice values/goals in the long term, but challenge yourself in the short-mod. #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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cholbrook357:
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@ CindyKane #sachat - I hired you didn't I? LOL |
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6:00 pm
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jpkirch:
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FT: Trust yourself, trust your values, and do your homework. You'll be fine. #sachat |
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6:00 pm
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StacyLOliver:
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@maddyfacepants Right back at you! You keep me motivated and laughing! #sachat #parkinglotpeptalk |
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6:00 pm
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lelambeth:
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Thank you everyone! Yet again, a very informative and insighful #sachat ! |
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6:00 pm
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KevinPCroke:
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Finding the right fit in any circumstance is as @sjiwamiya said a 'proactive' endeavor #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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jesstini85:
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FT cont: don't be negative when speaking of past experience, find a network of support, and I'll say it again - know urself! 1/2 #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: FT: Trust yourself, trust your values, and do your homework. You'll be fine. #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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KARupert:
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RT @debrasanborn: Too thine own self be true. (Bill Shakespeare knew his stuff) Right job at the right school is waiting for you. #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @cholbrook357: @ CindyKane #sachat - I hired you didn't I? LOL |
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6:01 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Pen Down, Head Up! DAYTIME #SAchat is officially closing, but rest your fingers for the EVENING #SAchat from 6-7pm CST |
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6:01 pm
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edcabellon:
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And me too :-) RT @cholbrook357: @ CindyKane #sachat - I hired you didn't I? LOL |
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6:01 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @The_SA_Blog: RT @cholbrook357: In end, care 4 u & don't stay where it doesn't fit 4 2 long - u won't be good for anyone if u do #sachat |
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6:01 pm
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MJChatter:
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#highered #sachat how does your school handle students with serious legal history (arrests) at the enrollment stage? |
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6:02 pm
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samanthaledford:
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great #sachat this afternoon - now its back to the real world! |
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6:02 pm
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cholbrook357:
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SO true! Didn't mean to leave you out! RT @edcabellon: And me too :-) RT @cholbrook357: @ CindyKane #sachat - I hired you didn't I? LOL |
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6:02 pm
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JPedde:
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wonderful chat everyone! So helpful and insightful. Have a great rest of your day! :) #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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jesstini85:
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RT @jpkirch: FT: Trust yourself, trust your values, and do your homework. You'll be fine. #sachat |
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6:02 pm
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jpkirch:
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Good luck to all in those job searches (employers and candidates)! #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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MOD: Have ideas for future #SAchat topics? Let us know: http://bit.ly/8gqEU9 |
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6:03 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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At the end of the day, it's a job. We work to live, not live to work. #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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tbump:
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Great perspective! RT @jpkirch: FT: Trust yourself, trust your values, and do your homework. You'll be fine ,& fantastic!>. #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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mikesevery:
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RT @sjiwamiya: At the end of the day, it's a job. We work to live, not live to work. #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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sjiwamiya:
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RT @jpkirch: Good luck to all in those job searches (employers and candidates)! #sachat |
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6:03 pm
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edcabellon:
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Thanks for the great chat today everyone! I'll be lurking tonight :-) Enjoy the rest of your day! #sachat |
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6:05 pm
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jesstini85:
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@EdCabellon is there a video chat going on tonight? :D #sachat |
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6:06 pm
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NikiRudolph:
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#sachat is the best cure for the post-lunch drowsy. Always feel energized after it. Hope to lurk tonight around kids' bedtimes. |
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6:06 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @NikiRudolph: #sachat is the best cure for the post-lunch drowsy. Always feel energized after it. |
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6:07 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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@NikiRudolph We feel energized too! Thanks for your contributions! #sachat |
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6:07 pm
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jpkirch:
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Happy Happy, Joy Joy! I love me some #sachat! Don't miss the 6:00 CST/7:00 EST chat tonight! |
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6:08 pm
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LaurieABerry:
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I always look forward to #sachat. I always get great ideas, perspectives and build networks. You make an introvert feel at home. |
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6:09 pm
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jesstini85:
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@NASPAtweets advocate for participation in social media - #sachat due to the network abilities, find myself more confident now then b4 2/? |
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6:09 pm
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cindykane:
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RT @jpkirch: Happy Happy, Joy Joy! I love me some #sachat! Don't miss the 6:00 CST/7:00 EST chat tonight! |
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6:10 pm
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djdw:
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Another great #sachat. Thanks all. So much to think about and I need to re-read that transcript. I fear I missed a lot! |
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6:11 pm
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The_SA_Blog:
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RT @jpkirch: Happy Happy, Joy Joy! I love me some #sachat! Don't miss the 6:00 CST/7:00 EST chat tonight! |
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6:15 pm
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IrmaPelt:
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I lurked in #sachat today. I think it's time to have a conversation with @LeahWescott about institutional fit. |
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6:18 pm
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cindykane:
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If anyone can help me assist a colleague in networking in the Troy, NY area... let me know? She's looking for non profit work. #sachat |
