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January 29, 2010
1:10 am olpcnews: Re: Don't send OLPC your XO laptops for Haiti: hmmm... Canadian G1G1ers did not get this? http://goo.gl/fb/ouL6 #olpc
3:02 am mrkschan: i like this! "it was well known that most XOs would be dropped several times during their life span." #olpc
3:28 am olpcnews: Re: What do you think about "Win a Laptop" Promotion from Betty Crocker: I won? http://goo.gl/fb/S9DC #olpc
3:41 am rosamariatorres: En el #WEF en #Davos N.Negroponte mencionó #Peru como ejemplo de uso de la OneLaptopPerChild #olpc ¿Q dicen l@s peruanos? #educacion
4:03 am olpcnews: Friday Twitter Chat! How can OLPC help? http://goo.gl/fb/F0fH #olpc #haiti #earthquake #haitianchildren #hashtag
4:16 am olpcnews: Comment on Friday Twitter Chat! How can OLPC help Haiti?: I know you wanna comment, but use Twitter instead? http://goo.gl/fb/68Om #olpc
5:15 am olpcnews: Comment on Waveplace Foundation: OLPC Haiti Rebuilding Done Right: Hi all, Tim Falconer here. Thank you Wayan? http://goo.gl/fb/ftAo #olpc
6:11 am rosamariatorres: What is Village School? RT @olpcnews @joevans Anyone has recent experence prchasing #OLPC 4 specific loc ex Village school in #ElSalvador?
7:23 am olpcnews: Re: Don't send OLPC your XO laptops for Haiti: Just in case you missed it... http://www? http://goo.gl/fb/BKCt #olpc
7:23 am cpanelhosting: RT @olpcnews: Re: Don't send OLPC your XO laptops for Haiti: Just in case you missed it... http://www? http://goo.gl/fb/BKCt #olpc
12:21 pm airjump: RT @olpcnews: Friday Twitter Chat! How can OLPC help Haiti? - today at 3pm EST - http://is.gd/7gjAP #olpc #haiti
12:23 pm olpcnews: The Apple Ipad vs the Notion Ink Adam tablets: Some thoughts about these two new tablets? http://goo.gl/fb/sUNz #olpc
1:12 pm olpcnews: Comment on eKindling and OLPC Philippines: Birthplace of Something Special: I hope that when you write such an? http://goo.gl/fb/lvA3 #olpc
1:12 pm olpcnews: Comment on Waveplace Foundation: OLPC Haiti Rebuilding Done Right: Potential idea (not my own) regarding Haiti? http://goo.gl/fb/DvDL #olpc
1:12 pm olpcnews: Comment on Defend the Truth with OLPC Jamaica's Music Video: Digital media in the curriculum of the students? http://goo.gl/fb/SygL #olpc
1:12 pm olpcnews: Comment on Children's Security is Now Possible with OLPC Bitfrost: Bitfrost is almost complete. Its working? http://goo.gl/fb/ld6Q #olpc
1:12 pm olpcnews: Comment on Donate Your XO Laptop to Youth Country Missionaries Club: Such a beautiful thing and so few people? http://goo.gl/fb/NJQE #olpc
2:10 pm downeym: Can OLPC help Haiti? Don't miss the first-ever #OLPC Twitter Chat today at 3pm EST. More info: http://is.gd/7gjAP
2:28 pm random_musings: Enroute to the very outskirts of Vienna to set up two XO-1s that are heading to Nigeria next week. #olpc
2:46 pm HaitiRewired: RT @downeym: Can OLPC help Haiti? Don't miss the first-ever #OLPC Twitter Chat today at 3pm EST. Info: http://is.gd/7gjAP
2:54 pm olpcnews: Join us today for 1st #OLPC Twitter Chat at 3pm EST see: http://is.gd/7gjAP @stcaccess @whitneyq @mikejmcginnis @DeusExBestia @ChrisTheFeral
3:15 pm olpcnews: Friday Twitter Chat! How can OLPC help Haiti? - today at 3pm EST - http://is.gd/7gjAP #olpc #haiti
4:00 pm wayan_vota: How can OLPC help #Haiti? - Twitter Chat in 4 hours using #OLPC - see http://is.gd/7gjAP and follow @OLPCNews
4:12 pm FranXOphonie: XpressO: Enfants pour l'Éducation: Des XO pour outiller de «grands» penseurs de l'éducation à Montréal #olpc http://is.gd/7ioXG
4:18 pm rosamariatorres: Archaic may not be the word RT @OECD Why does 1-to-1 computing sound archaic? OECD mtg discusses single-use computers in the classroom #olpc
4:29 pm lmockford: RT @FranXOphonie XpressO: Enfants pour l'Éducation: XO pour outiller de «grands» penseurs de l'éducation à Montréal #olpc http://is.gd/7ioXG
4:30 pm olpcnews: How can OLPC help Haiti? - Do you think @olpc will join us for the Twitter Chat? http://is.gd/7gjAP #olpc
4:53 pm olpcnews: Joining us today for 1st #OLPC Twitter Chat at 3pm EST? http://is.gd/7gjAP @RaceTalk @DanWalshed @kyledaustin @OLPC @lmockford @juliobiason
5:00 pm olpcnews: in 3 hours - Twitter Chat: How can OLPC help Haiti? http://is.gd/7gjAP #olpc #haiti
5:05 pm downeym: 3 hrs to go: Can OLPC help Haiti? The first #OLPC Twitter Chat today at 3pm EST. More info: http://is.gd/7gjAP
5:14 pm kara_h: @CrisisCamp @kalabird at least 2 of us were using an XO at the DC #cchaiti last weekend so they can be used for the effort here too #olpc
5:17 pm olpcnews: Comment on Waveplace Foundation: OLPC Haiti Rebuilding Done Right: I don't know if I completely agree with the? http://goo.gl/fb/3Exo #olpc
5:19 pm kara_h: @olpcnews at least 2 of us were using an XO at the DC #cchaiti last weekend so they can be used for the effort here too #olpc
5:24 pm Mokurai: RT @olpcnews: in 3 hours - Twitter Chat: How can OLPC help Haiti? http://is.gd/7gjAP #olpc #haiti
5:38 pm olpcnews: Comment on Contribute to OLPC News: Have XO laptop never really got around to try it out on the give 1 get 1? http://goo.gl/fb/29XO #olpc
6:00 pm olpcnews: How can OLPC help #Haiti? - Twitter Chat in 2 hours using #OLPC - see http://is.gd/7gjAP
6:19 pm olpcnews: Comment on Contribute to OLPC News: Evelyn, Thanks for your thoughts, but we don't need an XO as much as others? http://goo.gl/fb/lLBQ #olpc
6:30 pm olpcnews: How can OLPC help Haiti? Do you think @nnegroponte will join us for the Twitter Chat? http://is.gd/7gjAP #olpc
6:37 pm PerBusch: Agree with RT @stcaccess Good gesture. RT @whitneyq: Packing my #OLPC to go to Haiti - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Haiti
6:38 pm PerBusch: Wondering if the #OLPC #accessibility project still exists - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Accessibility /@olpcnews?
7:00 pm downeym: Coming up in one hour: Can OLPC help Haiti? #OLPC Twitter Chat at 3pm EST. More info: http://is.gd/7gjAP
7:00 pm olpcnews: How can OLPC help #Haiti? - Twitter Chat in 1 hour using #OLPC - see http://is.gd/7gjAP
7:01 pm olpcnews: Comment on Waveplace Foundation: OLPC Haiti Rebuilding Done Right: Hi, Tim Falconer again. Just to clarify, in? http://goo.gl/fb/UI5S #olpc
7:12 pm olpcnews: Re: The Apple Ipad vs the Notion Ink Adam tablets: I've noticed a frequent objection for? http://goo.gl/fb/Rmva #olpc
7:12 pm olpcnews: Saw ya! RT @kara_h: @CrisisCamp @kalabird at least 2 of us were using an XO at the DC #cchaiti last weekend #olpc
7:14 pm olpcnews: Joining us today for 1st #OLPC Twitter Chat at 3pm EST? http://is.gd/7gjAP @kara_h @allnetbooks @kimblem @PerBusch @ictdev
7:16 pm orcmid: Wonder what I seek is not #iPad but future #OLPC slate integrted with Windows-centric SOHO environment and apps (Outlook).
7:17 pm playingwithsid: @PerBusch Not sure, last time I checked #OLPC still needs a a11y team
7:30 pm olpcnews: How can #OLPC help #Haiti? - Twitter Chat in 30 minutes! Set up your fav Twitter Client and check chat questions on http://is.gd/7gjAP
7:40 pm downeym: Best way to follow & participate in #OLPC Twitter Chat in 20 minutes? Check out TweetChat: http://bit.ly/bcNnMp
7:45 pm bzg: RT @olpcnews How can #OLPC help #Haiti? - Twitter Chat in 30 minutes! Set up your fav Twitter Client and check chat questions on http://i...
7:46 pm GregYohn: OK, laugh! This is my first time Tweeting. If I see my message, then I guess I set up things correctly! #olpc
7:48 pm downeym: @GregYohn Looks fine to me! #olpc
7:49 pm FranXOphonie: RT @olpcnews: How can #OLPC help #Haiti? - Twitter Chat in 30 min! Set up your Twitter Client and check chat questions on http://is.gd/7gjAP
7:50 pm downeym: Starting in 10 minutes - get your thoughts and answers ready: Can OLPC help Haiti? #OLPC Twitter Chat info: http://is.gd/7gjAP
7:51 pm GregYohn: So, I need to click on #Haiti to talk about OLPC there or is the correct place for the chat? #olpc
7:54 pm downeym: @GregYohn All you have to do is include #OLPC in your Tweet. Easy! #OLPC
7:54 pm downeym: @GregYohn ... and if you're using TweetChat.com, you don't even need to do that, it will do it automatically. #OLPC
7:55 pm olpcnews: How can OLPC help #Haiti? - #olpc Twitter Chat in 5 minutes! - We'll start with introductions: name, how'd you get an XO? Its name (if any)
7:56 pm olpcnews: Greg, follow this link and sign in http://tweetchat.com/beta/room/olpc #olpc
7:56 pm random_musings: RT @olpcnews: How can OLPC help #Haiti? #olpc Twitter Chat in 5 min! - We'll start with intros: name, how'd you get an XO? Its name (if any)
7:59 pm GregYohn: OK...I did a G1G1 in 2007 and thought my future son could use it. He was born in Mar 2008. He is at YouTube Andres Felipe Yohn #olpc
8:00 pm olpcnews: Welcome to the #olpc Twitter Chat on How can OLPC help #Haiti? Please start w/ intros: name, XO source, XO name, and 1 XO thing you love
8:00 pm downeym: Hi all. Michael Downey from @IUinformatics and @OpenMRS and fairly new to OLPC stuff. Currently XO-less. Wanna donate one? :) #OLPC
8:01 pm olpcnews: I'm @wayan_vota in real life, have 3 XO's from G1G1, and my daughter already ripped the keys off one, and they're (almost) waterproof #olpc
8:01 pm GregYohn: I love the Wifi of the XO, Greg Yohn is my name. Greg is the XO name. #olpc
8:02 pm olpcnews: @downeym you can always ask for one from the @olpcnews quiver #olpc
8:02 pm random_musings: Hi all. Christoph Derndorfer from OLPC (Austria) and olpcnews here. Owner of 2 XO-1s and 1 XO-1.5. Love MLJ's display and Sugar. #olpc
8:02 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Ed Cherlin, Earth Treasury. XO loaned from Google, Mokurai, I love to think about a network of a billion children.
8:03 pm downeym: @olpcnews Y'all may convince me yet! :) #OLPC
8:03 pm joncamfield: I'm Jon Camfield, and I got my OLPC from the original G1G1 (I got it in march 08). I love scaring people by dropping it on the floor. #olpc
8:05 pm olpcnews: No lurking! If you're following the #olpc Twitter Chat, speak up say hello!
8:05 pm olpcnews: Q1. Just how many dusty XO-1's will OLPC's call generate? Will we see tens, hundreds, or tens of thousands? #olpc
8:05 pm GregYohn: http://translate.google.com/# is good if anyone is not good with English. #olpc
8:05 pm downeym: #OLPC Twitter Chat pro tip: Go to http://tweetchat.com/beta/room/OLPC or just add #OLPC to your Tweet to participate! #OLPC
8:06 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti I don't see how XOs can help right now, but I can imagine that XOs in use could have overcome the communications wipeout.
8:06 pm random_musings: re: Q1: I'd expect to see several hundred XO-1s being re-donated for Haiti efforts. #olpc
8:07 pm downeym: I ask out of ignorance: How many XO's were shipped as part of G1G1? How big of a base are we dealing with? #OLPC
8:07 pm joncamfield: FYI, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_for_Haiti has the details on the call for unused OLPCs #olpc
8:07 pm olpcnews: ~70K xo's went out with 1st G1G1, ~20K in second one #olpc
8:08 pm random_musings: @downeym Approximately 90K in total IIRC. #olpc
8:08 pm joncamfield: re: Q1 - The bigger problem will be getting in touch with those who are no longer active in the community #olpc
8:09 pm olpcnews: Wondering what's happening with #olpc hashtag? Its a Twitter Chat! join us (details http://is.gd/7gjAP ) #olpc
8:09 pm GregYohn: I wish those with G1G1 would all know via email of OLPC News and the forum! #olpc
8:09 pm Mokurai: #olpc #haiti BTW, I was the first localization administrator for Haitian Creole, Kreyòl Ayisyen.
8:09 pm olpcnews: how to reach them? RT @joncamfield: re: Q1 - The bigger problem: getting in touch with those who are no longer active in the community #olpc
8:10 pm downeym: It strikes me that people who participated in G1G1 to begin with, would be more likely to donate (humanitarian-minded). #OLPC
8:10 pm random_musings: @joncamfield NN sent out a massive e-mail to several ten-thousands of people within the past 48h so #olpc can definitely reach A LOT of folk
8:10 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Anybody see Paul Farmer on C-SPAN with Sen. Kerry's committee?
8:10 pm joncamfield: What's the value of 100-1k laptops in uncertain states of updating; will 1CC flash them all? Load localized content? Lots of manpower #olpc
8:11 pm joncamfield: @random_musings I never got the call. Maybe it will show up 5 months late, like my G1G1 laptop? #olpc
8:12 pm downeym: @Mokurai What'd he have to say? (In < 140 chars!) #OLPC
8:12 pm olpcnews: good point - refurbish hell RT @joncamfield: 100-1k laptops in uncertain states of updating; will 1CC flash them all? #olpc
8:12 pm mahlness: Mark Ahlness, 3rd grade teacher in Seattle, 6 XO's - seeing no easy answer to this Haiti/xo question... #olpc
8:12 pm random_musings: @joncamfield Odd, all G1G1 '07 donors should have received it. And #OLPC is getting a lot of replies to that mailing from what I can see...
8:12 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @joncamfield Yes, we can get techies to update laptops. It's an emergency. Real question: What XOs are good for amid chaos.
8:13 pm rosamariatorres: I am Ecuadorian. Have been following #olpc developments since its start. Saw it operating in #Uruguay and other LatinAmerican countries.
8:13 pm GregYohn: I saw via BBC TV that the XO was being sold in Afghanistan by a small rural vendor. It was on last night's show. :( #olpc
8:13 pm random_musings: @joncamfield Flashing 100 XOs takes 3 to 4 hours max. thanks to the NANDblaster. #olpc
8:13 pm downeym: But will a few hundred make much of a difference when there are (presumably still) already 14k in Haiti? #OLPC
8:14 pm random_musings: My approach would be to boot up all donated XOs, then NANDblast, then sort out the ones where things didn't work out. #olpc
8:14 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @downeym Paul Farmer, Partners in Health, talked about health needs and reconstruction, preferably without Disaster Capitalism.
8:14 pm GregYohn: Buenes Tardes Rosa! Mi esposa y bebe en Cali, Colombia! #olpc
8:15 pm random_musings: @downeym Depends on whether it reaches the "right" people (re: "making a difference") #olpc
8:15 pm olpcnews: bigger Q2: Are XO-1's or XO-1.5's still relative in age of netbooks? or iPads? #olpc
8:15 pm downeym: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_for_Haiti : "9 out of 10 'broken' laptops can be fixed with the right part or update in 15 minutes." #OLPC
8:15 pm jakedarnell: If we did re-flash these, they have the hardware to support VoIP. How about adding skype to connect people again? #OLPC
8:15 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Conjecture: XOs plus jabber server can spread wireless connectivity over many square miles. Offer to emergency services, govt.
8:15 pm jakedarnell: The biggest issue is the network remaining in Haiti. #OLPC
8:16 pm downeym: Q2: Are XO-1's or XO-1.5's still relative in age of netbooks? or iPads? #OLPC
8:16 pm joncamfield: @olpcnews The XO is still pretty rugged; I can't imagine the iPad lasting a day without it's screen being scratched to uselessless #olpc
8:16 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc fans should read these "5 lies we tell ourselves (and funders) when developing new tech for ppl in need" http://ow.ly/16rSVh by @ict4d
8:16 pm random_musings: @jakedarnell Good idea but I don't think I've seen Skype working under Sugar (yet). Might work on DebXO or Ubuntu though. #olpc
8:17 pm downeym: Agree with @joncamfield on need for ruggedness in post-disaster environment. iPad? Seems way to fragile. #OLPC
8:17 pm GregYohn: XO-1.5's are about as powerful as my ASUS Ebox that use an Intel Atom processor. #olpc
8:17 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @olpcnews XOs don't need WiFi router or Internet to connect wirelessly over moderate distances, given line of sight.
8:18 pm kara_h: @downeym I agree, much as I love Apple the iPad would be the wrong tool for the job #olpc #olpc
8:18 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti No Skype! Free software! Ekiga Softphone, or shared Record sessions.
8:18 pm GregYohn: I use Voip using my Twinkle and my 12Voip or VoipRaider account info. It is nice calling my wife in Cali for free while in Bogota! #olpc
8:19 pm downeym: Just joining #OLPC Twitter Chat? Introduce yourself! Name, XO source, XO name, and 1 XO thing you love.... #OLPC
8:20 pm downeym: +1 for deploying FOSS as long as it's usable and low-maintenance on the ground :) #OLPC
8:20 pm kara_h: even if your XO is in use, handy at Crisis Camps when your laptop is elsewhere ... so it is still working for the cause but not there #olpc
8:21 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @rosamariatorres Important for new ideas, but not for XOs, which are well established. I'll talk to them about my idea later.
8:21 pm joncamfield: Access to resources like haiti.ushahidi.org for road closures, medical service locations, etc. would be useful #olpc
8:21 pm downeym: We're on Q2: Are XO-1's or XO-1.5's still relative in age of netbooks? #OLPC
8:21 pm joncamfield: Lack of GPS/location data is a hindrance #olpc
8:22 pm downeym: Would other hardware be more helpful right now for Haiti than the XO? Why? #OLPC
8:22 pm joncamfield: @downeym The XO-3 tablet will be out soon, right? It is both an OLPC and an iPad... right? (joking) #olpc
8:22 pm olpcnews: Q3: So are XO laptops relative to Haiti's relief effort? #olpc
8:22 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @downeym XOs relevant? Are ruggedness, low power, mesh networking relevant? Who else has them?
8:23 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc chat: I have seen #XO laptops broken-out of service in #Uruguay, small country (3 million) w/highest HDI in this region.U want #Haiti?
8:23 pm random_musings: @downeym re: Q2: Yes, I think it's still very relevant, due to features such as ruggedness! #olpc
8:23 pm downeym: @joncamfield Don't forget the handy thumb-loop/lanyard-attachment :) #OLPC
8:24 pm jakedarnell: @downeym cellphones would be the best, in terms of technology, right? There is already the 4636 short code set up. #OLPC
8:24 pm joncamfield: re Q3: relevant, sure - people can always find a use for computers; but only if there is enough infrastructure - charging, wifi #olpc
8:25 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @jakedarnell Cell phones would be great if the towers and switches weren't down and out.
8:25 pm joncamfield: RT @jakedarnell: @downeym cellphones would be the best, in terms of technology, right? There is already the 4636 short code set up. #olpc
8:25 pm downeym: I don't think they're relevant ... yet. Still need to focus on healthcare & communication to rebuild govt. Mobile phones, SMS, etc. #OLPC
8:26 pm GregYohn: The XO needs a warning to tell you when you are running out of its 1GB internal flash memory. #olpc
8:26 pm random_musings: My thoughts exactly! RT @Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @jakedarnell Cell phones would be great if the towers and switches weren't down and out.
8:26 pm downeym: @Mokurai As an amateur radio operator I've been surprised to not hear much about radio voice/packet services in use .... #OLPC
8:27 pm olpcnews: FM Radio rocks - can the XO be hacked to receive FM? #olpc
8:27 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Well established, not necessarily well operating. Lessons need 2 be learned. 5 lies valid RT @Mokurai #XOs are well established
8:28 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @downeym There is a story about ham operators from the Dominican Republic setting up a system, then leaving because of security
8:28 pm olpcnews: And let's not fool ourselves - the XO mesh networking was a great idea, and generally works, but is way too buggy for unsupported use #olpc
8:29 pm GregYohn: Chris, mind mentioning about the XO 1.5? Might be better in Haiti now. #olpc
8:29 pm jakedarnell: @Mokura If the network is down, 2 sets of #openBTS would word. But isnt digicell still functioning? RT @random_musings: My thoughts... #OLPC
8:30 pm downeym: @olpcnews Radio is so much easier to deploy. I picked up FM radio with disconnected earbud earphones yesterday. Uncanny. #OLPC
8:30 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @olpcnews You could probably get FM with a USB attachment, but as far as I know, only one FM station in PaP survived.
8:31 pm downeym: Digicell is still working widely throughout the country and PAP. Over 10k SMS's processed by Ushahidi 4636 project. #OLPC
8:32 pm jakedarnell: Sorry, I have to leave. My wife and I are heading to a speech given by Carl Wilkens. Good luck everyone with the brainstorming! #OLPC
8:33 pm downeym: @jakedarnell Thanks! Stop by http://j.mp/OLPCsurvey before you go or later on? #OLPC
8:33 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @downeym +1 to Digicell and Ushadidi.
8:33 pm joncamfield: Does Digicell - Haiti support GPRS? They rolled it out very quietly in Jamaica (it worked if you hacked it, but wasn't advertised) #olpc
8:33 pm GregYohn: Far too many Americans went to Haiti for "Poverty Tourism" instead of giving their air fares and hotel expenses to hire locals. #olpc
8:34 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti I still haven't heard any real suggestions for deploying and using XOs in Haiti. Without training, ???
8:34 pm downeym: @joncamfield In theory yes, but not sure about post-quake. #OLPC
8:34 pm ChrisTheFeral: I'm not sure if sending laptops over RIGHT NOW would be wise, they've got to start rebuilding before they can th... @olpcnews #olpc
8:34 pm olpcnews: Q4: How should XO's be deployed in rebuilding Haiti? to relief workers or education or? #olpc
8:35 pm olpcnews: Like this #olpc chat? Be sure to follow @olpcnews to learn of more
8:35 pm downeym: I just can't see XO's providing much value until basic services are established. #OLPC
8:35 pm ChrisTheFeral: ...think about learning. Although it's a very nice thought. Once they've started to rebuild, then maybe send some over. @olpcnews #olpc
8:36 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @ChrisTheFeral Rather than donating and shipping, it would be better to use the 10,000+ in storage in Haiti. If intact.
8:36 pm downeym: XO's for resource-strapped relief org communications maybe? But yeah, way too soon for education projects, I think. #OLPC
8:36 pm ChrisTheFeral: If they're not in an environment where they can concentrate, it's practically useless. @olpcnews #olpc
8:37 pm GregYohn: I think only preexisting programs need the XO now, provided they still have teachers, students, and elec to recharge. Could be alt NRG #olpc
8:37 pm joncamfield: Q4: I thought OLPCs could only be used for education... and for the Haiti instance, are probably best to jumpstart post-recovery edu #olpc
8:37 pm joncamfield: @downeym I bet an OLPC+usb+gprs cell would make a decent internet terminal #olpc
8:38 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti - Right #Radio has been key in Haiti 4 info, comm, educ, in creole RT @downeym I've been surprised not 2 hear much about radio
8:38 pm downeym: Do we really want to experiment in disaster-stricken communities? Or stick to proven tech/strategy? #OLPC
8:38 pm GregYohn: VOIP needs 200K to work usually with a DSL or faster connection, not Dial Up. #olpc
8:40 pm ChrisTheFeral: A4: I'd think give them to the kids for EDU, although nobody should experience such horrible events, the... @olpcnews #olpc
8:40 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti I provided some info and links on Daily Kos, http://bit.ly/5c8nPX. I plan to write an update tomorrow.
8:40 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Has any of U been in Haiti? Do U speak creole? Are U aware of the history and situation of #education in the country?
8:41 pm downeym: @GregYohn Right ... good to think about the things that have to be in place for XO's to be successful. #OLPC
8:41 pm random_musings: I think sending XOs to organizations and people in Haiti who have worked with them before (e.g. Waveplace) does make sense. #olpc
8:41 pm ChrisTheFeral: A4: ..they're the next generation. @olpcnews #olpc
8:41 pm joncamfield: @downeym Yes, but most of Int'l Dev and Econ Dev is experimentation with unproven theories impacting livelihoods already... #olpc
8:43 pm downeym: @ChrisTheFeral Like your response but tricky to follow split into parts :) #OLPC
8:43 pm GregYohn: I have an Econ Dev and since do not speak the language, never expected to go there. Although, have friends from there. #olpc
8:43 pm random_musings: @rosamariatorres No, but then again, nobody here is planning to go. Rather people w/ on-the-ground experience (eg waveplace) should! #olpc
8:44 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti : Haitian children deserve great, affectionate Haitian #teachers and caregivers, who speak their lang & share their culture
8:44 pm downeym: @rosamariatorres Good point about risks of not understanding culture/context on the ground. Important to know before sending in tech. #OLPC
8:44 pm random_musings: @ChrisTheFeral A4 is just another ARM combo, not better or worse than other products out there IMHO. #olpc
8:45 pm downeym: @random_musings I think that was "Answer 4" and not the A4 processor :) #OLPC
8:46 pm GregYohn: Noticed that DR seems to be not so nice to Haitians. Theyre removed totally from a DR border hospital at nite back to Haiti Dios Mio #olpc
8:46 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Real people, affection, care, are main actors in Haiti now, not tech gadgets deserving themselves attention and resources
8:47 pm olpcnews: Q5 What technology support systems does the XO require? #olpc
8:47 pm downeym: Q5: What technology support systems does the XO require? #OLPC
8:48 pm ChrisTheFeral: #olpc @olpcnews Answer to Q4: I'd think give them to the kids for education, although nobody should experience suc (cont) http://tl.gd/5vc6e
8:48 pm downeym: A5: Besides the obvious tech needs - attention, time, and energy. #OLPC
8:48 pm joncamfield: re Q5: charging stations, wifi, software development for relevant projects, training and tech support #olpc
8:49 pm GregYohn: It needs elec, memory cards/USB, maybe mouses too since the mouse pad is flaky when its is used when warm temp. #olpc
8:49 pm Mokurai: @rosamariatorres #olpc #Haiti Haitian children need relief from racism embodied in national policies of France and US for 200 years now.
8:50 pm random_musings: Q5: electricity, WiFi networks and School-servers... #olpc
8:50 pm GregYohn: Ethernet cable with USB adapters be used if portability is not needed. #olpc
8:51 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @downeym Electricity, and either Internet or a Jabber server would be good. Tech support. Training.
8:51 pm random_musings: Good point! Could also make a good XO-as-XS. RT @GregYohn: Ethernet cable with USB adapters be used if portability is not needed. #olpc
8:53 pm GregYohn: @Mokurai I see racism in Colombia towards AfroColombians, but they get better treatment than Haitians and DR. Two different countries. #olpc
8:53 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Electric power still down in Haiti. Most emergency power comes from diesel generators. Port destroyed, so hardly any diesel.
8:53 pm rosamariatorres: #OLPC #Haiti Pls dont. It would be highly irresponsible. RT @downeym Do we really want 2 experiment in disaster-stricken communities?
8:53 pm downeym: Is Internet a priority? Satellite/VSAT stuff is expensive. Or can local networks suffice temporarily? #OLPC
8:54 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti No emergency planning for communication, electricity in Haiti, or in previous disasters such as Asian tsunami.
8:55 pm olpcnews: But is XO the best tool? RT @ChrisTheFeral: @olpcnews Answer to Q4: Id think give them to the kids for education #olpc
8:55 pm random_musings: @downeym I think local networks always offer A LOT of potential (something that is often underestimated IMO) #olpc
8:55 pm olpcnews: Never is RT @Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti No emergency planning for communication, electricity in Haiti, or in previous disasters #olpc
8:56 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @downeym No tech can work without first fixing the electricity supply or providing substitutes. Also, no port to land them.
8:56 pm GregYohn: Internet not mandatory. Do not like students with 2nd class computer training. Like OpenOffice, like Office, but FREE for XO. #olpc
8:56 pm olpcnews: Re: The Apple Ipad vs the Notion Ink Adam tablets: If this video is any indication the? http://goo.gl/fb/gMfO #olpc
8:57 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Ask ppl in Haiti, Haitians, what they want-need at this point.Consult.Don't treat them as "beneficiaries".Treat 'em as subjects
8:57 pm downeym: We'll keep going for a while longer, but please check out this super-quick 5 question survey before you leave: http://j.mp/OLPCsurvey #OLPC
8:57 pm olpcnews: Final Q: Who would be the best in providing an XO-centric learning ecosystem in Haiti? OLPC itself or....? #olpc
8:58 pm olpcnews: Wave cash RT @Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Can anybody get the attention of a solar company that can donate #olpc
8:58 pm GregYohn: Ports are opening. Like some nibble NGO's unload in small boats at secure beaches. BIG BOYS can not think small scale distribution. #olpc
8:59 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @rosamariatorres Ask ppl in Haiti. Yes, exactly, but how do we ask without communications?
8:59 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #haiti NO RT @olpcnews But is #XO the best tool? RT @ChrisTheFeral: @olpcnews Answer to Q4: Id think give them 2 kids for #education
8:59 pm olpcnews: Great point! RT @Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @rosamariatorres Ask ppl in Haiti. Yes, exactly, but how do we ask without communications? #olpc
9:00 pm downeym: A6: I never thought of OLPC as an aid organization ... do they have any experience in anything like that? They seem more strategic. #OLPC
9:00 pm random_musings: re: final question: people and organizations with extensive local experience, networks and resources (e.g. Waveplace). #olpc
9:01 pm tonnet: RT @rosamariatorres: #olpc fans should read these "5 lies we tell ourselves (and funders) when developing new tech for ppl in need" http://ow.ly/16rSVh by @ict4d
9:01 pm GregYohn: Why can not all cities get a visit from an NGO/Military visit? Send them in via Helocopter to dist supplies in each place. #olpc
9:03 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #haiti Arent U in contact w/Haitians in or out of Haiti? RT @Mokurai Ask ppl in Haiti. Yes, but how do we ask w/out communications?
9:03 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Only radio station in Port-au-Prince: http://bit.ly/8YDDwM
9:04 pm olpcnews: Repeating Final Q: Who would be the best in providing an XO-centric learning ecosystem in Haiti? OLPC itself or....? #olpc
9:04 pm downeym: Are there any other org's working with OLPC/XO's in Haiti other than Waveplace? #OLPC
9:05 pm GregYohn: I read the French translation of what OLPC was doing in Haiti from Dec. So, much talk and not action like Waveplace has done & is doin #olpc
9:07 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti Lack of infrastructure in Haiti, money from mangoes, coffee, lying on ground but nobody can pick it up. http://bit.ly/atFyYM
9:07 pm downeym: A6: Seems to me that once again the ministry of ed needs to be involved, but they are surely in disarray right now. #OLPC
9:08 pm olpcnews: Waveplace, IADB both work with XO's in Haiti already #olpc
9:08 pm GregYohn: http://www.lenouvelliste.com/article.php?PubID=1&ArticleID=76769&PubDate=2009-12-08 use http://translate.google.com #olpc
9:08 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Small case is the way 2 go, but implies small PROJECT and INEQUITY RT @GregYohn BIG BOYS can not think small scale distribution
9:09 pm olpcnews: other than that, I don't knwo of any, but I'm sure small, nimble, private schools with a solid IT staff could roll out XO's #olpc
9:09 pm olpcnews: Only prob: small, nimble, private schools with a solid IT staff would roll out netbooks instead #olpc
9:09 pm Mokurai: #olpc #Haiti @OLPCnews OLPC cannot provide curriculum, texts, training. Expects governments and NGOs like Open Learning Exchange to do it.
9:10 pm downeym: I do think there is value in tech-mediated creativity to express the emotions & feelings that people probably are having. But how? #OLPC
9:10 pm GregYohn: OLPC is a drop and run operation. Who is there to handle more than hardware issues? #olpc
9:11 pm downeym: @GregYohn Right now, anyone who would be is certainly focusing on rebuilding and urgent stuff. #OLPC
9:12 pm random_musings: I dont agree with the notion that projects always need 2 be small. Many interesting things only start to happen when something is BIG! #olpc
9:12 pm GregYohn: They say 15000 deployed in Haiti, but how many used by the children and not in a warehouse unused? #olpc
9:13 pm olpcnews: Bonus Question: If not the XO, what kind of tech could be most useful in Haiti right now? #olpc
9:14 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Writing-drawing-painting. Haitians are gr8 artists! RT @downeym value in tech-mediated creativity 2 express feelings..But how?
9:14 pm GregYohn: alt energy to power batteries used to recharge the rest of the tech. #olpc
9:15 pm downeym: Hmm. More *working* mobile phones/SMS. Let people get their voices out and let others know they're OK. Flip-style video cameras? #OLPC
9:15 pm olpcnews: sober note: #Haiti Gov says 112,000 is official death toll http://bit.ly/9K9ztQ #olpc
9:16 pm GregYohn: BTW, where are those pull string chargers for the XO? I saw a similar product used to recharge cell phones. #olpc
9:16 pm olpcnews: low-tech: running water, working electricity, hot stoves #olpc
9:17 pm downeym: For whoever asked about solar, Tough Stuff has mobile phone chargers $10 wholesale. Still kinda steep for such widespread need. #OLPC
9:17 pm olpcnews: Thanks everyone for coming out the first ever OLPC News #olpc Twitter Chat. Pretty good conversation for 1 day notice #olpc
9:18 pm downeym: Thanks for participating in the first #OLPC Twitter Chat! Please take a few seconds for this short survey: http://j.mp/OLPCsurvey #OLPC
9:18 pm olpcnews: We'll have a transcript of this chat up on OLPC News in a few minutes and be sure to take the survey #olpc
9:18 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti Why think of tech? Sense of "normalcy" RT @olpcnews If not the #XO, what kind of tech could be most useful in Haiti right now?
9:20 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti I would say #radio = communication RT @olpcnews If not the #XO, what kind of tech could be most useful in Haiti right now?
9:20 pm random_musings: Thanks a lot from Austria as well. This was my 1st Twitter Chat and I have to say I enjoyed it a lot! Have a great weekend everyone:-) #olpc
9:21 pm GregYohn: Chris. drink some beer for me! :) #olpc
9:21 pm downeym: Enjoyed the fray ;-) hope to see more at some point. #OLPC
9:23 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti TX. So short, so much 2 say! RT @downeym TX for participating in the first #OLPC Twitter Chat! Survey: http://j.mp/OLPCsurvey
9:24 pm GregYohn: Went FAST....this was the first time I Tweeted! :) #olpc
9:26 pm GregYohn: Check out my little Amer Ambassador in Cali, Colombia on YouTube. search Andres Felipe Yohn. OK proud Papa! #olpc
9:30 pm random_musings: Hope nobody is too annoyed by the 30+ updates from the @olpcnews twitter chat (http://bit.ly/9lD6ve) we had. Filtering "#olpc" should help;)
9:33 pm rosamariatorres: #olpc #Haiti #education For those of U reading Spanish, let me share this piece I wrote during a mission to Haiti 1998 http://bit.ly/aUkZpW