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February 6, 2010
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DeborahMersino:
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Welcome to the 7pm/EST global #gtchat! Our topic: Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students. Use hashtag #gtchat |
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DeborahMersino:
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Please take a moment to introduce yourself, your role (parent, educator, advocate) and where you hail from! #gtchat |
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BrendonWalker:
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Putting in my apologies...I'm sitting an exam on Monday and am neck deep in book. Will catch the transcript. Have fun @jofrei #gtchat |
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12:01 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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@DeborahMersino Finally - Possibly - Together we can cause change before it's too late. #gtchat #gifted #education #children #future |
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12:01 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@BrendonWalker - We'll miss you, but understand! #gtchat |
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12:01 am
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KTVee:
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@DeborahMersino greetings; g/t teacher from Missouri! #gtchat |
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12:01 am
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aspergers2mom:
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Hello I am @aspergers2mom. I am a parent of 2 aspie boys here in the USA #gtchat |
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12:02 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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Hi all! Gifted Ed teacher from Ontario, Canada. I'll be in and out. #gtchat |
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12:02 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat Parent - Ohio |
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12:02 am
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DeborahMersino:
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I'm Deborah Mersino, parent to 2 girls (one 2E), gifted ed social media consultant and reside in Colorado. #gtchat |
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12:03 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Glad you're all here. Let's start by talking about the full range of challenges our 2E students face. #gtchat |
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12:04 am
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CathRiordan:
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Hello from Ireland. Parent/advocate with 2 teens...one 2e #gtchat |
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12:04 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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Teachers recognizing only one identification or the other. Gifted w/o support for LD. Or LD without challenges in strength areas. #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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jofrei:
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Jo Freitag Gifted Resources an info service in Australia #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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DeborahMersino:
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"When Gifted Kids Don't Have All of the Answers" by Delisle and Galbraith cites uneven academic skills, processing problems and more #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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growupwithbooks:
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Hi! I'm a parent of 1 gt and 1 being tested...teacher and reading consultant. #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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Hi from South Florida I have two gifted girls. My youngest is 6yo in 1st grade and 2E. #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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prufrockpress:
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Hi from Prufrock Press ... this is Joel McIntosh, the publisher, and parent of two teenagers. #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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KTVee:
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facing ppl who do not understand or are not educated #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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RT @DeborahMersino: "When Gifted Kids Don't Have All of the Answers" by Delisle and Galbraith cites uneven academic skills, processing problems and more #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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CathRiordan:
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Not recognising either due to one masking the other #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@jofrei - Glad to have #AU represented. Thank you for being here! #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: Teachers recognizing only one identification or the other. Gifted w/o support for LD. Or LD without challenges in strength areas. #gtchat |
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12:05 am
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CathRiordan:
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A must-read for all parents/teachers/psychologists of #2e kids is James Webb's Misdiagnoses book: http://ow.ly/14rh0 #gtchat |
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12:06 am
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giftedmum:
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Hi All A parent & advocate with 2 young #2E boys.... live in Sydney #gtchat |
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12:06 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@growupwithbooks - Glad you're here! #gtchat |
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12:06 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @CathRiordan: A must-read for all parents/teachers/psychologists of #2e kids is James Webb's Misdiagnoses book: http://ow.ly/14rh0 #gtchat |
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12:06 am
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prufrockpress:
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It's an identification problem and a problem once the kids are in a gifted program. Some gifted teachers don't accommodate 2E kids. #gtchat |
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12:06 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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another good resource http://bit.ly/cE2TjA Smart Kids with Learning Difficulties #gtchat |
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12:06 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@CathRiordan - Agreed! Webb's Misdiagnoses book is a must. #gtchat |
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12:07 am
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eagledawg:
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Hi #gtchat! I'm a mom w/2E 2nd grader in Seattle facing sometimes hostile tension between GT & sped teachers. Frustrating & tiring! |
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12:07 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Hi @prufrockpress! I agree re identification problem. And lack of teacher training relative to 2E issues. #gtchat |
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12:07 am
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jofrei:
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@Sharon_Drummond Agreed Teachers recognizing only one identification or the other is main problem.#gtchat |
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12:07 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: another good resource http://bit.ly/cE2TjA Smart Kids with Learning Difficulties #gtchat |
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12:08 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@Sharon_Drummond - That was on my list to share. TY! #gtchat |
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12:08 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@eagledawg I had to deal with that at times over the years too #gtchat |
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12:08 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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My #2E is in private school -seemed only way get help she needed.
#gtchat She wasn't showing enough need for public school help. |
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12:09 am
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giftedmum:
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My boys school seem 2B very aware of VSL & #2E .sad that often one masks the other #gtChat |
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12:09 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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masking is huge issue as well @CathRiordan A lot of kids go unidentified because they aren't priority because they "meet standard" #gtchat |
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12:09 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Often, the emphasis gets placed on the disability, as opposed to the strengths. #gtchat Can be devastating to sensitive gifted souls. |
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12:10 am
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aspergers2mom:
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the schools should work on the issue so the gift can shine #gtchat |
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12:10 am
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giftedmum:
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@Sharon_Drummond thanks Sharon looks like a good resource #gtchat |
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12:10 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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And a lot of our 2e students are also perfectionist, compounding the issue! #gtchat |
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12:10 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Low self-esteem and frustration that everything should come easy can result. And yes, masking can prevail. #gtchat |
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12:10 am
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prufrockpress:
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About a year ago,we published a very good book on advocacy for special needs kids ... it's a great how-to manual for parents. #gtchat |
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12:11 am
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CathRiordan:
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Brilliant video illustrating learning differences is Animal School: http://ow.ly/14rjI Wish all teachers could see it #gtchat |
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12:11 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Teachers and adults often lower their expectations, which doesn't help matters either. #gtchat |
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12:11 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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My child works so hard everyday beyond her regular homework to overcome her glitches. Hard work for all of us. #gtchat |
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12:11 am
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prufrockpress:
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Sorry in advance for the plug ... "Special Needs Advocacy Resource Book: What You Can Do Now to Advocate" ... http://bit.ly/av2wrF #gtchat |
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12:11 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @prufrockpress: About a year ago,we published a very good book on advocacy for special needs kids ... it's a great how-to manual for parents. #gtchat |
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12:11 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@prufrockpress - Great. I'd love to read and pass it on! #gtchat |
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12:12 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @prufrockpress: Sorry in advance for the plug ... "Special Needs Advocacy Resource Book: What You Can Do Now to Advocate" ... http://bit.ly/av2wrF #gtchat |
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12:12 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@prufrockpress - We need resources. No worries about the plug. TY! #gtchat |
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12:13 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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one of the issues I see is the need for individual programming - even in a segregated gifted classroom. Not always done. #gtchat |
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12:13 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @mygiftedgirl: My child works so hard everyday beyond her regular homework to overcome her glitches. Hard work for all of us. #gtchat |
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12:13 am
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giftedmum:
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@DeborahMersino this is an issue.. I hear teachers refer 2 my son as "highly gifted' yet what do they do with the Stealth Dyslexia #gtchat |
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12:13 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Between 10 and 20 percent of high school drop-outs test within the very superior range (S. Rimm, PhD). #gtchat |
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12:14 am
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giftedmum:
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@mygiftedgirl "glitches" is the name my 9yo #2e calls his #SPD & stealth dyslexia #gtchat |
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12:14 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Between 10 and 20 percent of high school drop-outs test within the very superior range (S. Rimm, PhD). #gtchat |
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12:14 am
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CathRiordan:
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How do you tell a teacher your kid needs challenge when he can't get regular homework finished? #gtchat |
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12:14 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @prufrockpress: Sorry in advance for the plug ... "Special Needs Advocacy Resource Book: What You Can Do Now to Advocate" ... http://bit.ly/av2wrF #gtchat |
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12:14 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@giftedmum - IMHO, they need to support him on both ends of the spectrum. #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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AspieTribe:
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http://aspietribe.com RT @aspergers2mom Hello I am @aspergers2mom. I am a parent of 2 aspie boys here in the USA #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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biggest challenge right now: she reads on grade level (finally) yet comprehends way beyond her grade. Right brained learner. #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @CathRiordan: How do you tell a teacher your kid needs challenge when he can't get regular homework finished? #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@CathRiordan - I hear you. My 2E daughter abhors homework, but will spend hours writing narratives on the computer (unassigned work) #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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cybraryman1:
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Teachers must work with parents to work on an IEP and how to work with the 2E child at home and in school #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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Oregon2E:
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Good refernce! RT @DeborahMersino: 10-20 percent of high school drop-outs test within the very superior range (S. Rimm, PhD). #gtchat |
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12:15 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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we need further understanding about how to support and challenge. Different,not more. Fewer questions, more depth & w/in interest. #gtchat |
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12:16 am
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Oregon2E:
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New to chat -- OK to add GHF's 2e resources link? #gtchat |
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12:16 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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Yes! @cybraryman1 The IEP needs to reflect both sides of 2e students. A "gifted" IEP or "LD" IEP doesn't cut it! #gtchat |
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12:16 am
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KTVee:
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anyone's state write learning plan for gt? this could help address needs of 2E kids; we address disability with IEP #gtchat |
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12:16 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@Oregon2E - Oh yes. Please do! Thank you. #gtchat |
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12:17 am
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jofrei:
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Another plug my latest project is http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/feetspeakforweb01.htm #gtchat |
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12:17 am
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prufrockpress:
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The parent-teacher communication and partnership part of this equation is so critical, but at times it can feel adversarial. #gtchat |
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12:17 am
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giftedmum:
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@DeborahMersino we've sought external support thru an Ed Psych ..We can't wait 4 school 2 do something #gtchat he gets 2 type in class tho |
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12:17 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Q1: As easy/frustrating it can be for both parents/students - and teachers - what can we do better? #gtchat |
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12:17 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@KTVee in the USA gifted does not come under any protection.The schools do not have to address it at all #gtchat |
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12:18 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @cybraryman1: Teachers must work with parents to work on an IEP and how to work with the 2E child at home and in school #gtchat |
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12:18 am
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tappedinorg:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Between 10 and 20 percent of high school drop-outs test within the very superior range (S. Rimm, PhD). #gtchat |
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12:18 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: we need further understanding about how to support and challenge. Different,not more. Fewer questions, more depth & w/in interest. #gtchat |
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12:19 am
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Oregon2E:
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@DeborahMersino Here they come :-) 2E Articles: http://tinyurl.com/ydmyw22 Resources: http://tinyurl.com/yelekhz #gtchat |
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12:19 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@prufrockpress - Well said! Trying to foster an alliance & listening to teacher's observations (as positively as possible) may help #gtchat |
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12:19 am
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jofrei:
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@cybraryman1 Agreed! Teachers must work with parents to work on an IEP and how to work with the 2E child #gtchat |
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12:19 am
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cybraryman1:
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Parents need to know the law or have someone help advocate for their child with schools. #gtchat |
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12:19 am
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giftedmum:
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@aspergers2mom It does in #Au it is meant 2 ensure that children's needs R meet... as #gifted & #2e R kids at risk #gtchat |
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12:19 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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RT @cybraryman1: Parents need to know the law or have someone help advocate for their child with schools. #gtchat |
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12:20 am
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KTVee:
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@aspergers2mom yep; in my state, no LP's; to me gifted and LD, even tho opposite ends are both NEEDS to be addressed #gtchat |
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12:20 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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Advocate for child's learning style. Our right brainer needs a balance. Learn her way too, not just by flash cards and worksheets #gtchat |
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12:20 am
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CathRiordan:
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In Ireland, you are only entitled to extra teaching support if you achieve in bottom 10%. So gifted get nothing #gtchat |
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12:20 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@giftedmum that is nice. #gtchat |
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12:20 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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@cybraryman1 #gtchat understanding the law...I agree! |
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12:20 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@KTVee problem is the law needs to be rewritten. #gtchat |
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12:20 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@Jani_Oehlke - Well said. And important - particularly as some SpEd laws involving gifted are underfunding/under fire. #gtchat |
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12:21 am
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KTVee:
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we have to challenge their strengths while supporting their weaknesses--just like EVERY kids needs! #gtchat |
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12:21 am
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giftedmum:
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The sad thing is 4 every one of us articulate, empowered adovates (parents/educators) there are those who buckle under the strain #gtchat |
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12:21 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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RT @KTVee: we have to challenge their strengths while supporting their weaknesses--just like EVERY kids needs! #gtchat |
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12:21 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @giftedmum: The sad thing is 4 every one of us articulate, empowered adovates (parents/educators) there are those who buckle under the strain #gtchat |
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12:21 am
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eagledawg:
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#gtchat Q1 As parent I try to kindly educate the educators, esp. for 2E don't always have/know latest research/resources. |
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12:22 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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and focus on standardized testing mean that kids who "get by" are not a focus. 2e often fall into that category in schools. #gtchat |
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12:22 am
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CathRiordan:
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Too often, parents have no option but to push the LD part simply to get the resource teaching #gtchat |
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12:22 am
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jofrei:
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great lists thank you @Oregon2E 2E Articles: http://tinyurl.com/ydmyw22 Resources: http://tinyurl.com/yelekhz #gtchat |
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12:22 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat - Sad, all children deserve a chance to prove their abilities! |
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12:22 am
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giftedmum:
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@aspergers2mom in theory... Son did ext program.. so many extension program depend on writing & organisation skills (lacking in Son) #gtchat |
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12:22 am
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mamacorin:
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Why 2E doesn't fit well in classrooom: http://tinyurl.com/yda9hnw Main point: sometimes no blame, just bad fit. #gtchat |
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12:22 am
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prufrockpress:
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Right. No child is going to find a passion or career based on their weakness. We ought to focus on strengths. #gtchat |
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12:22 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Suggestions from Delisle/Galbraith: Have great expectations. Many 2E learners become successful adults/fields requiring adv. ed #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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aposseadesse66:
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Another mum in Ireland here, sorry, computer keeps crashing, coming in late here #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: and focus on standardized testing mean that kids who "get by" are not a focus. 2e often fall into that category in schools. #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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good point @eagledawg Teachers need to listen to parents - they know their child best, and often have the best info/research. #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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KTVee:
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2 bad there r tchrs right now that don't believe kid could be LD math & gifted in language arts; hope they read this! #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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cybraryman1:
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Keep chatting (I got a late pass and am catching up!) I have the two articles here: http://bit.ly/8rDekG #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@eagledawg - Good for you. #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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Oregon2E:
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Why 2E doesn't fit well in classrooom: http://tinyurl.com/yda9hnw Main point: sometimes no blame, just bad fit. #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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RT @mamacorin: Why 2E doesn't fit well in classrooom: http://tinyurl.com/yda9hnw Main point: sometimes no blame, just bad fit. #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @mamacorin: Why 2E doesn't fit well in classrooom: http://tinyurl.com/yda9hnw Main point: sometimes no blame, just bad fit. #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Suggestions from Delisle/Galbraith: Have great expectations. Many 2E learners become successful adults/fields requiring adv. ed #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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Oregon2E:
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(Sorry -- I forget who I am sometimes :-) #gtchat |
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12:23 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Jani_Oehlke: #gtchat - Sad, all children deserve a chance to prove their abilities! |
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12:24 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@giftedmum executive functioning is such a big problem for 2Ekids. It gets in their way and it is not usually addressed well #gtchat |
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12:24 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@cybraryman1 - Thank you once again! #gtchat |
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12:24 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: and focus on standardized testing mean that kids who "get by" are not a focus. 2e often fall into that category in schools. #gtchat |
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12:24 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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good point @mamacorin 1 size fits all gftd ed doesn't work for 2e students. Just like 1 it doesn't work in a regular classroom! #gtchat |
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12:24 am
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prufrockpress:
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@mamacorin But, they used to say that about handicapped people in public bathrooms. Classrooms should change to help the kids. #gtchat |
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12:25 am
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giftedmum:
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@aposseadesse66 thats quite apt really ..Ur computer is demonstrating the inherent strengths & weaknesses is many #2e kids #gtchat |
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12:25 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat every school year, each new teacher would mis - diagnose my son, then most push him aside. |
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12:25 am
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Oregon2E:
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As adults, we value specialization, yet we expect our kids to be generalists. How unfair is that? #gtchat |
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12:25 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Provide for individual pacing in areas of giftedness & disability (Delisle/Galbraith). #gtchat |
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12:25 am
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aspergers2mom:
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RT @Oregon2E: As adults, we value specialization, yet we expect our kids to be generalists. How unfair is that? #gtchat |
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12:26 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@Jani_Oehkle - *sigh* #gtchat |
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12:26 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @aspergers2mom: @giftedmum executive functioning a big problem for 2Ekids. Gets in their way and it is not usually addressed well #gtchat |
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12:26 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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RT @DeborahMersino Provide individual pacing in areas of giftedness & disability (Delisle/Galbraith). #gtchat we need to do that for all! |
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12:26 am
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aposseadesse66:
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@giftedmum Guess I need to find its optimal operating style so! #gtchat |
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12:26 am
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giftedmum:
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@aspergers2mom if every child could be Ax where there abilities lay.. their functioning is & plans 2 marry the 2..what a difference #gtchat |
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12:26 am
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cybraryman1:
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@Oregon2E Thanks! I posted the Homeschooling 2E child link: http://bit.ly/8rDekG #gtchat Keep chatting while I capture article links. |
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12:27 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@giftedmum i agree. it would be an amazing education for all students #gtchat |
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12:27 am
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giftedmum:
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@aposseadesse66 indeed... a perfect example (sorry I am also an extremely VSL.. and abstract images & concepts explain so much) #gtchat |
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12:27 am
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aspergers2mom:
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RT @giftedmum: if every child could be Ax where there abilities lay.. their functioning is & plans 2 marry the 2..what a difference #gtchat |
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12:27 am
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cybraryman1:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Provide for individual pacing in areas of giftedness & disability (Delisle/Galbraith). #gtchat |
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12:27 am
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prufrockpress:
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If you are not familiar with their work, the folks that publish the "2e Newsletter" are doing a great job. http://bit.ly/GXnGA #gtchat |
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12:27 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Promote self-direction is another instructional suggestion (Delisle/Galbraith); however, what if the 2E student won't re homework? #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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another thing teachers need to recognize - never take time from strength area for remediation! #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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cybraryman1:
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@Jani_Oehlke You should go over your child's permanent record with each teacher at beginning of school year. #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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Building relationships with teachers, tutors, therapists so important, then we have ability to advocate. #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @prufrockpress: If you are not familiar with their work, the folks that publish the "2e Newsletter" are doing a great job. http://bit.ly/GXnGA #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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heathrbabes:
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RT @aspergers2mom: RT @Oregon2E: As adults, we value specialization, yet we expect our kids to be generalists. How unfair is that? #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@DeborahMersino i think it is very hard for them to understand the mundane at time, but they need to know they have to do their work #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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GiftedHF:
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@DeborahMersino What if the homework isn't appropriate for the 2e child? #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: another thing teachers need to recognize - never take time from strength area for remediation! #gtchat |
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12:28 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Carol Fertig (@cfertig1) writes in "Raising a Gifted Child" (Prufrock) about 2E. #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: another thing teachers need to recognize - never take time from strength area for remediation! #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@GiftedHF - Great question! #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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giftedmum:
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@Sharon_Drummond OMG... that is the crux...don't rob strengths..in an attempt 2 pay weaknesses... both lose out #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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Oregon2E:
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@cybraryman1 Lots more where that came from. http://tinyurl.com/mqmefx #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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Lots of hugs for the #2E. Hugging her as we chat. That always makes everyone feel better. #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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DeborahMersino:
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"Spend time with your 2E child and focus on activities that accentuate his/her strong points." Fertig #gtchat |
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12:29 am
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ToughLoveforX:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Between 10 and 20 percent of high school drop-outs test within the very superior range (S. Rimm, PhD). #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @mygiftedgirl: Lots of hugs for the #2E. Hugging her as we chat. That always makes everyone feel better. #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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Oregon2E:
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Second that! RT @prufrockpress: The folks that publish the "2e Newsletter" are doing a great job. http://bit.ly/GXnGA #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Carol Fertig (@cfertig1) writes in "Raising a Gifted Child" (Prufrock) about 2E. #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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giftedmum:
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@GiftedHF Ours wasn't last year & I discussed this with the teacher & she said do what is appropriate...she was supportive #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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growupwithbooks:
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YOU are your child's advocate! NEVER be afraid to speak up! #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Help your young person see that there are things at which she/he excels. - Fertig {so vital!} #gtchat |
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12:30 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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parents of younger children need to advocate for appropriate hmwk. Teachers need to recognize what is appropriate. #gtchat |
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12:31 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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Hi #gtchat! Looks like a great discussion so far :) I teach in a gifted classroom and have worked with several 2E students. |
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12:31 am
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jofrei:
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RT @prufrockpress: If you are not familiar with their work, the folks that publish the "2e Newsletter" are doing a great job. http://bit.ly/GXnGA #gtchat |
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12:31 am
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DeborahMersino:
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"Tap into creativity; help her/him find new ways to get information that don't frustrate efforts." - Fertig #gtchat |
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12:31 am
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CathRiordan:
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Another good book: Smart kids with school problems by Patricia Vail: http://ow.ly/14roa #gtchat |
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12:31 am
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GiftedHF:
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@Giftedmum That's great! When it works, it works. When it doesn't, the child usually pays :-( I like happy stories! #gtchat |
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12:31 am
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CathRiordan:
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So true RT @growupwithbooks: YOU are your childs advocate! NEVER be afraid to speak up! #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@giftedmum - Good for you! #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat do most of you find that your children hate school? |
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12:32 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @CathRiordan: Another good book: Smart kids with school problems by Patricia Vail: http://ow.ly/14roa #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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RobynOHSH:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Provide for individual pacing in areas of giftedness & disability (Delisle/Galbraith). #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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giftedmum:
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4 many #2e kids simple is difficult & difficult is simple... an upside down world.... where there is a sense of being out of sync #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@PrufrockPress - Do have a link for Fertig's book? #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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@Sharon_Drummond YES!! We get too much work. Regular hw and work for her glitches...some of it fun others torture sheets #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Out of sync. So true @giftedmum. #gtchat |
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12:32 am
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cybraryman1:
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@Oregon2E I have a link already to Gifted Homeschoolers Forum on my GT page: http://bit.ly/8rDekG #gtchat |
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12:33 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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I find a lot of my gifted and 2e students hate their regular classrooms @Jani_Oehike #gtchat |
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12:33 am
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giftedmum:
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@GiftedHF I guess important thing is that parent & teacher r on the same page...then it works..if not NO .. need 2 find a solution #gtchat |
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12:33 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@ByrdseedGifted - Glad you're here! What are some of the strategies you've found worthwhile re to 2E? #gtchat |
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12:33 am
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mamacorin:
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@Sharon_Drummond Sadly, teachers can't always be flexible b/c of NCLB and standards. #gtchat |
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12:34 am
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CathRiordan:
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@giftedmum Upside down Brilliance: http://www.visualspatial.org/udb.htm #gtchat |
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12:34 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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another question - better to "drill" the weak areas or find work arounds? #gtchat |
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12:34 am
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growupwithbooks:
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RT @GiftedHF What if the homework isn't appropriate for the 2e child? #gtchat <Speak up to the teacher. You know your child best! |
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12:34 am
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eagledawg:
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@Jani_Oehlke we've found 'I hate school'='there's something I don't understand' but only up to 2nd grade now. Hope future's ok #gtchat |
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12:34 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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@Sharon_Drummond @mygiftedgirl As a teacher, I agree. Modifying HW has led to reduced stress and increased enjoyment of school. #gtchat |
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12:34 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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very true @mamacorin Ontario in the same boat with EQAO. That needs to change! #gtchat |
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12:35 am
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prufrockpress:
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@DeborahMersino Sure. "Raising a Gifted Child: A Parenting Success Handbook" includes some good info. /http://bit.ly/cnbsT3 #gtchat |
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12:35 am
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cybraryman1:
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All teachers need much more training on how to teach gifted students &children with learning disabilities and special needs. #gtchat |
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12:35 am
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giftedmum:
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@DeborahMersino I know what it's like being out of sync..friends want 2 discuss shoes&i want 2 discuss philosophy... finding the fit #gtchat |
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12:35 am
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Oregon2E:
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@cybraryman1 Thanks! I'll have to add yours, too. #gtchat |
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12:35 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@ByrdseedGifted in the USA modified homeowrk can actually be written into the IEP #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat Very concerned about these children dropping out of school, mostly because I think they are misunderstood |
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12:36 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@giftedmum :-) I hear you! #gtchat My dd wants to save endangered species, not write a sentence summarizing what she read for 20 min #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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prufrockpress:
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@Jani_Oehlke I think interest in school can vary from one 2e kid to another and, even, one subject to another. #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Jani_Oehlke: #gtchat Very concerned about these children dropping out of school, mostly because I think they are misunderstood |
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12:36 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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@aspergers2mom @ByrdseedGifted same in Canada. But IEPs aren't always well written for 2e... #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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CathRiordan:
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Sensory Processing Disorder covered in http://www.out-of-sync-child.com/ #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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growupwithbooks:
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When speaking to teachers-BE KIND. SPEAK TO BE HEARD, not to get rid of your anger about a situation. #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Good reminder! RT @aspergers2mom @ByrdseedGifted in the USA modified homeowrk can actually be written into the IEP #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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giftedmum:
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Finding a supportive environment & peers is paramount 2 #2e kids feeling complete & normal within a world of confusion & judgement #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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Oregon2E:
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Alternative ed can work well for 2e kids. We #homeschool s so my dd13 is hating algebra at home but doing well at university! #gtchat |
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12:36 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @CathRiordan: Sensory Processing Disorder covered in http://www.out-of-sync-child.com/ #gtchat |
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12:37 am
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KTVee:
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training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they don't understand gifted? #gtchat |
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12:37 am
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Oregon2E:
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@Sharon_Drummond Sadly, teachers can't always be flexible b/c of NCLB and standards. #gtchat |
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12:37 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @growupwithbooks: When speaking to teachers-BE KIND. SPEAK TO BE HEARD, not to get rid of your anger about a situation. #gtchat |
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12:37 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@Sharon_Drummond do u have any say in the IEP. in my district they let parents have input #gtchat |
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12:37 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@growupwithbooks - Such sage advice. Can work wonders if you work to "see" the teacher and the demands (i.e. NCLB) he/she faces. #gtchat |
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12:37 am
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aposseadesse66:
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RT @growupwithbooks: When speaking to teachers-BE KIND. SPEAK TO BE HEARD, not to get rid of your anger about a situation. #gtchat |
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12:38 am
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shellie:
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RT @eagledawg: @Jani_Oehlke we've found 'I hate school'='there's something I don't understand' but only up to 2nd grade now. Hope future's ok #gtchat |
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12:38 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@KTVee - I'm beginning to believe it's up to us. Yes - us. Parents in particular. #gtchat There's no lifeline or buoy in the wings. #gtchat |
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12:38 am
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cybraryman1:
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When my gifted son graduated HS very few of his self-contained gifted classmates (gr 4-6) made the Honor Society! #gtchat |
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12:38 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @KTVee: training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they dont understand gifted? #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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shellie:
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RT @CathRiordan: @giftedmum Upside down Brilliance: http://www.visualspatial.org/udb.htm #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @CathRiordan: @giftedmum Upside down Brilliance: http://www.visualspatial.org/udb.htm #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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giftedmum:
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@DeborahMersino My son would choose not 2 write...but discuss in great depth..WW11... The Green House Effect...not do spelling words #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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RT @CathRiordan: RT @KTVee: training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they dont understand gifted? #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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Oregon2E:
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Also here: http://tinyurl.com/y924clo RT @CathRiordan: Sensory Processing Disorder covered in http://tinyurl.com/yl67mo3 #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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shellie:
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I recognize this! We have a few of that model at ours. RT @CathRiordan Upside down Brilliance: http://www.visualspatial.org/udb.htm #gtchat |
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12:39 am
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jofrei:
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@giftedmum re @DeborahMersino out of sync..friends discuss shoes &i want 2 discuss philosophy... I discuss 2E using De Bono's shoes! #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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KTVee:
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@DeborahMersino as a 2E Parent AND GT teacher, I'm happy to start educating; gotta start somewhere! #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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DeborahMersino:
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In our earlier chat today, we also discussed perfectionism (our children and us!) and how this plays into our perspectives. #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat - I have been dealing with this for years. Yes, it is up to us! |
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12:40 am
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prufrockpress:
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Sometimes, kids who are visual-spatial learners are very bright but struggle in traditional classrooms. http://bit.ly/9G5Y5w #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@KTVee - You go girl! We need you! #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @prufrockpress: Sometimes, kids who are visual-spatial learners are very bright but struggle in traditional classrooms. http://bit.ly/9G5Y5w #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@DeborahMersino perfectionismcanbe very painful for my children #gtchat |
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12:40 am
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cybraryman1:
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@growupwithbooks Good point. My wife taught me to use "I feel" statements #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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Oregon2E:
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YES! RT @prufrockpress: "Raising a Gifted Child: A Parenting Success Handbook" includes good info. /http://bit.ly/cnbsT3 #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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KTVee:
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too many gifted kids sink into the depths of the public school systems when one hand could pull them out and save them #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @prufrockpress: Sometimes, kids who are visual-spatial learners are very bright but struggle in traditional classrooms. http://bit.ly/9G5Y5w #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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jofrei:
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RT @CathRiordan: RT @KTVee: training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they dont understand gifted? #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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Oregon2E:
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Amen. RT @KTVee: training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they don't understand #gifted? #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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giftedmum:
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@DeborahMersino My son started school (turned 5) he self-corrects his work..Perfectionist 2 the bone...another #2e fun& games ahead #gtchat |
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12:41 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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Oh my perfectionism... out of two gifted kids, the #2E has that perfectionism bug the most! Exhausting! Erasing holes into paper... #gtchat |
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12:42 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Spelling, handwriting and organization are not her thing, but boy, she's already designing Web sites. Let's celebrate our VSLs! #gtchat |
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12:42 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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RT @KTVee: too many gifted kids sink into the depths of the public school systems when one hand could pull them out and save them #gtchat |
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12:42 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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Do you think the needs of 2E students can be met in a regular classroom? #gtchat |
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12:42 am
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prufrockpress:
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@DeborahMersino on perfectionism, I love "Letting Go of Perfect: Overcoming Perfectionism in Kids" http://bit.ly/9eIXUC #gtchat |
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12:42 am
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cybraryman1:
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RT @KTVee: too many gifted kids sink into the depths of the public school systems when one hand could pull them out and save them #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Spelling, handwriting and organization are not her thing, but boy, she's already designing Web sites. Let's celebrate our VSLs! #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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mtechman:
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RT @cybraryman1: All teachers need much more training on how to teach gifted students &children with learning disabilities and special needs. #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@mygiftedgirl - So true. So tender. The eraser holes when it's not PERFECT. #gtchat. Self-esteem plummets ("I'm stupid.") |
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12:43 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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Teaching 2E students has made me see new facets of differentiation incl HW, PE, groups, recess options, even personal space. #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @KTVee: too many gifted kids sink into the depths of the public school systems when one hand could pull them out and save them #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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jofrei:
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RT @prufrockpress: @DeborahMersino on perfectionism, I love "Letting Go of Perfect: Overcoming Perfectionism in Kids" http://bit.ly/9eIXUC #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: Do you think the needs of 2E students can be met in a regular classroom? #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @prufrockpress: @DeborahMersino on perfectionism, I love "Letting Go of Perfect: Overcoming Perfectionism in Kids" http://bit.ly/9eIXUC #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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growupwithbooks:
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@cybraryman1 "I feel" statements are good...removes the blame. Go in with a plan, not just a complaint. #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @ByrdseedGifted: Teaching 2E students has made me see new facets of differentiation incl HW, PE, groups, recess options, even personal space. #gtchat |
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12:43 am
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prufrockpress:
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I remember my Dad thought I was nuts to publish that book ... "Why wouldn't someone want to be perfect"? He stumped me :) #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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KTVee:
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yes- 2E needs can be met in a differentiated learning environment with a supportive, hands on, involved tchr! #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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cybraryman1:
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The needs of most 2E students can not be met in a regular classroom because teachers lack training to handle them. #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat "Letting go to be perfect!" Well said! |
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12:44 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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@KTVee We pulled ours out of public. Private has been the best fit. #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@ByrdseedGifted - Can we clone you? :-) #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: Do you think the needs of 2E students can be met in a regular classroom?/ Only if teachers trained #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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Oregon2E:
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Depends on so many factors. RT @Sharon_Drummond: Do you think the needs of 2E students can be met in a regular classroom? #gtchat |
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12:44 am
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giftedmum:
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I have found that #SPD & gifted overexcitabilities over link.. #gtchat |
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12:45 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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I agree, KTVee - with emphasis on "supportive, hands on, involved tchr". I would add well-trained! #gtchat |
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12:45 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Sadly, our perfectionism can get in the way too. #gtchat |
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12:45 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@cybraryman1 most teachers lack training in the learning issues seperately from the gifted. Never enough support for the teachers #gtchat |
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12:45 am
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ContentbyHGK:
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Hi, I'm new to these chat things, but I have a 2E 4th grader who is hitting walls this year, won't take feedback, ask 4 help, etc. #gtchat |
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12:45 am
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eagledawg:
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@Sharon_Drummond depends on reg teacher, 1st grade willing to differentiate & had our son mentor struggling readers. He LOVED that. #gtchat |
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12:45 am
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KTVee:
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@Sharon_Drummond yep--and training beyond reading a book or a half hour workshop #gtchat |
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12:46 am
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prufrockpress:
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@cybraryman1 In my darker moments, I sometimes think you could say the same thing about gifted kids generally. #gtchat |
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12:46 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@ContentbyHGK - Welcome. We're glad you're here! #gtchat |
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12:46 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@ContentbyHGK my 16 yr old has been like that from birth. Teachers complain constantly #gtchat |
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12:46 am
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giftedmum:
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AU schools R now Ax all new Kindergarten (1st formal year at school) 2 determine where they sit..so they start where they R at #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@ContentbyHGK - Have you talked to the teacher? Asked for support? I'm sorry it's trying. #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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KTVee:
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@KTVee although a little training is better than none #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @prufrockpress: @cybraryman1 In my darker moments, I sometimes think you could say the same thing about gifted kids generally. #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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aspergers2mom:
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i think it takes a gifted teacher to teach 2E children. They need toknwo how to reach all childen that is the key #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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mamacorin:
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@prufrockpress I don't think it's a fair comparison. I also don't think the trad. classroom is the end-all be-all. #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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I have those moments, too, @prufrockpress @cybraryman1 Tchr support is a big part of my job - and one of the hardest! #gtchat |
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12:47 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@giftedmum - wow. #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @aspergers2mom: i think it takes a gifted teacher to teach 2E children. They need toknwo how to reach all childen that is the key #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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deepwaterscoach:
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Sorry, kids, I'm late to the party, but I'm wondering, have we talked about how our kids' perfectionism sparks our & vice versa? #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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true, @KTVee a little training and an open mind and willingness to learn more can work wonders! #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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eagledawg:
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@ContentbyHGK we are hitting walls for 1st time since he is having to work at learning. Prev. reg class=easy. Sources to help, all? #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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aposseadesse66:
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@KTVee Sometimes a little knowledge, but not enough, can be counter-productive though. #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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cybraryman1:
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@ContentbyHGK I would search in your area for a parent advocate to help you with the school system #gtchat |
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12:48 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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@cybraryman1 As a response to incr no's of kids identified as 2E, we're receiving more training. But it's pretty recent. #gtchat |
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12:49 am
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DeborahMersino:
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My struggle: How do I know when I'm not focusing "enough" on the weaknesses (overexcitabilities, etc.)? #gtchat |
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12:49 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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Yes, she is good, but he's stubborn! RT @DeborahMersino: @ContentbyHGK - Have you talked to the teacher? Asked for support? #gtchat |
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12:49 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@giftedmum popping in...this caught my eye. r u saying that all schools are Ax appropriate identification? #gtchat |
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12:49 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@deepwaterscoach - Welcome! Touched on perfectionism just a tad. Big issue, though! #gtchat |
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12:49 am
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CathRiordan:
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@aposseadesse66 The open mind part is vital with the little knowledge #gtchat |
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12:50 am
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cybraryman1:
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I have been on both sides of the desk so I know the problems teachers and parents have. We must work together. #gtchat |
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12:50 am
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prufrockpress:
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@KTVee I think training is on the rise. Gifted education really hasn't been overly serious about this until recent years. #gtchat |
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12:50 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@hillarykwiatek - I'm a fan of therapy too. Particularly those who specialize in gifted issues. It can be a lifesaver for the child. #gtchat |
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12:50 am
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Struggle2Learn:
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RT @cybraryman1: I have been on both sides of the desk so I know the problems teachers and parents have. We must work together. #gtchat |
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12:50 am
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giftedmum:
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@DeborahMersino yes my son can read, write & spell & do maths..he won't have 2 sit & listen while kids learn their alphabet (I hope) #gtchat |
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12:51 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@eagledawg need to start with a schedule and a plan of organization at home. Reward systm for effort is great #gtchat |
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12:51 am
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prufrockpress:
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@KTVee We're seeing a lot of new, research-based professional-development editorial content on 2e coming down the pipe. #gtchat |
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12:51 am
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eagledawg:
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#gtchat have to go pick up, great chat & looking forward to transcript/links! Thanks all |
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12:52 am
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aposseadesse66:
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Parents are often a wasted resource, they can have more time to research and find solutions, teachers need to be open to their ideas #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Wow! Lively chat tonight. Love the passion. As we wrap up, what one thing can you can do this week to support a 2E student better? #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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giftedmum:
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@BrendonWalker yes. they have 2 be Ax now 2 gauge where they are with Literacy & learning..trying 2 identify issues (& strengths
) #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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cybraryman1:
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RT @DeborahMersino: @hillarykwiatek - I'm a fan of therapy too. Particularly those who specialize in gifted issues. #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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KTVee:
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If you wanted to start changing minds and educating about 2E; where would you begin with classroom tchrs? #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Wow! Lively chat tonight. Love the passion. As we wrap up, what one thing can you can do this week to support a 2E student better? #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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aspergers2mom:
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@DeborahMersino give your children permission to be who they are #gtchat |
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12:52 am
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deepwaterscoach:
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@DeborahMersino Thx! It's always interesting when we look at our kids' characteristics to ask how they're interacting w/ ours. #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@prufrockpress - Hooray re new research-based prof. development support on 2E coming down the pipe! #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@eagledawg - It was a pleasure! #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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CathRiordan:
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RT @aposseadesse66: Parents are often a wasted resource, they can have more time to research and find solutions, teachers need to be open to their ideas #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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1 problem is with reading tests. He gets 100% on multiple choice, blows open-ended part. He's a great writer but clams up! #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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KTVee:
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2E students need understanding. Let them know you get it, that it's okay to be who they are, and smile at them! #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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@DeborahMersino #gtchat Ask our #2E what we can do to support them better. |
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12:53 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@giftedmum AU schools HAVE 2b...reality is many r not. It is rare in AU to find a school that knows how to identify. #gtchat |
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12:53 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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start with one individual child. 2E isn't descriptive of any group - every one unique. One at a time. #gtchat |
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12:54 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@KTVee - Let them know you're doing more research and ask if they would be interested in getting an email/resources. #gtchat |
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12:54 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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RT @KTVee: 2E students need understanding. Let them know you get it, that it's okay to be who they are, and smile at them! #gtchat |
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12:54 am
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giftedmum:
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Thanks everyone lots of food for thought & some grt references & resources ...much appreciated #gtchat |
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12:54 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @aspergers2mom: @DeborahMersino give your children permission to be who they are #gtchat |
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12:54 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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RT @Oregon2E, RT @KTVee: training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they don't understand #gifted? #gtchat |
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12:54 am
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EBTull:
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Our school refused to acknowledge our outside diagnosis on the IEP and suspended him for not being on his meds.#gtchat |
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12:55 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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@KTVee - #gtchat I agree! |
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12:55 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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@DeborahMersino We found an awesome play therapist when he was in serious emotional distress last year. She has helped so much! #gtchat |
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12:55 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@Giftedmum if this is the reality...count your blessings. Many gifted children are still re-taught which is v sad #gtchat |
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12:55 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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RT @Sharon_Drummond: start with one individual child. 2E isn't descriptive of any group - every one unique. One at a time. #gtchat |
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12:55 am
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jofrei:
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@DeborahMersino what one thing can you can do this week to support a 2E student better? two Es Educate and Encourage #gtchat |
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12:55 am
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giftedmum:
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@BrendonWalker serious...new standards... we just went through the process... its a stepping stone 2 further proper identification..#gtchat |
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12:56 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @jofrei: @DeborahMersino what one thing can you can do this week to support a 2E student better? two Es Educate and Encourage #gtchat |
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12:56 am
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giftedmum:
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@BrendonWalker at least they are all not being herded 2gether like mindless sheep..sat down & given the same work #gtchat they C difference |
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12:56 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@hillarykwiatek - Excellent! So powerful! #gtchat |
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12:56 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@Giftedmum then you have found a rare school. Congrats :) #gtchat |
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12:57 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@EBTull - So sorry. #gtchat |
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12:57 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @ByrdseedGifted: RT @Oregon2E, RT @KTVee: training on gifted in general is needed 1st; how can ppl understand 2E if they don't understand #gifted? #gtchat |
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12:57 am
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cybraryman1:
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I have some of the links mentioned on 2E children tonight as well as others here on my GT page: http://bit.ly/8rDekG #gtchat |
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12:57 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@Giftedmum hope like hell they actually know how to manage once identified. AU public schools have a v long way 2 go #gtchat |
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12:57 am
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CathRiordan:
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Love and accept them for who they are and make them aware of their strengths #gtchat |
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12:57 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat - Creativity, diet, exercise, lots of love and understanding - |
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12:58 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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RT @CathRiordan: Love and accept them for who they are and make them aware of their strengths #gtchat |
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12:58 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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Sorry I've changed identities! I'm @ContentbyHGK and @hillarykwiatek. I need to check before I post! #gtchat |
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12:58 am
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giftedmum:
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@jofrei Ah good old De Bono. I love my 8yo was looking at the world through De Bono's hats last year in school. a vast improvement #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Thank you to everyone who participated tonight! Transcripts available soon. Good to collaborate/share resources. Well done all! #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @ByrdseedGifted: RT @CathRiordan: Love and accept them for who they are and make them aware of their strengths #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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EBTull:
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RT @ByrdseedGifted: RT @CathRiordan: Love and accept them for who they are and make them aware of their strengths #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Thank you @cybraryman1 for tracking links. Thank you @prufrockpress for providing some great resources! #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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jofrei:
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@BrendonWalker Sadly I have to agree with you re AU schools #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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deepwaterscoach:
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@DeborahMersino Thanks for hosting again, Deborah! #gtchat |
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12:59 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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#gtchat - I would like to see the schools focus on their strengths, and know humiliation DOES NOT work! |
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12:59 am
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aspergers2mom:
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Good night. Nice meeting everyone. #gtchat |
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1:00 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@mamacorin - So glad you were here! We value your voice. #gtchat |
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1:00 am
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growupwithbooks:
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RT @hillarykwiatek 1 problem is with reading tests.<Why can't he dictate them? #gtchat |
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1:00 am
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giftedmum:
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@BrendonWalker Hey... I have a steely determination..a wit & an intellect 2 match... I am a good advocate as I can empathise as well #gtchat |
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1:00 am
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DeborahMersino:
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If this was your first #gtchat, congratulations. I hope you found it helpful. Please join us again next Friday! noon/EST and 7pm/EST |
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1:01 am
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CathRiordan:
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@DeborahMersino Thank you once again and good night. #gtchat |
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1:01 am
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growupwithbooks:
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What I find most interesting about this chat is that what we are saying is for ALL children. Wanting the best for each child. #gtchat |
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1:01 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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thanks, all! I enjoyed the chat tonight! #gtchat |
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1:01 am
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EBTull:
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Demonstrate in actions not only words that they are wonderful and outside the box thinkers. #gtchat |
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1:01 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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Is there a set time for these chats? #gtchat |
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1:01 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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Good night all. Glad I could make it :) Very helpful to hear everyone's points of view. #gtchat |
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1:01 am
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DeborahMersino:
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So long parents, educators and advocates! New Ingeniosus blog post will be up by Monday, including next week's topic choices/Twtpoll #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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cybraryman1:
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@DeborahMersino Thanks for a wonderful job of moderating a lively discussion #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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mygiftedgirl:
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What a fantastic Friday chat! Thank you @DeborahMersino #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@CathRiordan - Good night Ireland! :-) #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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growupwithbooks:
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I believe you need a "gifted teacher," not necessarily a trained GT teacher to deal with 2E. #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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What I'd prefer is if he could type them. He writes so much better on the computer RT @growupwithbooks: <Why can't he dictate them? #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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KTVee:
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thanks to all; looking forward to the next one. #gtchat |
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1:02 am
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Sharon_Drummond:
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RT @growupwithbooks: What I find most interesting about this chat is that what we are saying is for ALL children. Wanting the best for each child. #gtchat |
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1:03 am
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ByrdseedGifted:
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@DeborahMersino Thanks for putting this together :) #gtchat |
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1:03 am
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DeborahMersino:
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My pleasure and privilege! #gtchat |
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1:03 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@giftedmum Many advocates do. My tip: if school mgmt R not on board, move. Mite feel nice 4 a while, but the puff will run out #gtchat |
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1:03 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @BrendonWalker: @Giftedmum hope like hell they actually know how to manage once identified. AU public schools have a v long way 2 go #gtchat |
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1:04 am
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hillarykwiatek:
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Very encouraging, thanks! RT @aspergers2mom: sounds like my oldest. he was hyperlexic . ..Very detrmined now in college #gtchat |
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1:04 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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@cybraryman1 - Thank you - your input is so very much appreciated! #gtchat #education |
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1:05 am
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BrendonWalker:
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Never give up fighting for your kids rights. They only ever have one chance to attain the best ed they can #gtchat |
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1:05 am
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mamacorin:
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@DeborahMersino Thanks! Back atcha. :-) #gtchat |
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1:06 am
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growupwithbooks:
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@hillarykwiatek Perfect! Ask for it. If there's an IEP-have it added. #gtchat |
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1:06 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @BrendonWalker: Never give up fighting for your kids rights. They only ever have one chance to attain the best ed they can #gtchat |
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1:06 am
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growupwithbooks:
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@hillarykwiatek I'd luv 2 see written response-compare it to a typed response of SAME question. THen share w/ educators/team.#gtchat |
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1:06 am
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BrendonWalker:
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@DeborahMersino Probably see you at the next one (was quietly watching in corner of my eye whilst studying) #gtchat |
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1:07 am
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jofrei:
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Have not seen my tanks note come through yet may have forgotten the #gtchat Anyway many thanks Deborah and cybraryman |
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1:07 am
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growupwithbooks:
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@DeborahMersino Thanks for the chat! #gtchat |
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1:08 am
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RascofromRIF:
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RT @growupwithbooks: YOU are your child's advocate! NEVER be afraid to speak up! #gtchat |
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1:08 am
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growupwithbooks:
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RT @CathRiordan Love and accept them for who they are and make them aware of their strengths #gtchat |
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1:11 am
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Jani_Oehlke:
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RT @growupwithbooks: YOU are your child's advocate! NEVER be afraid to speak up! #gtchat |
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1:12 am
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giftedmum:
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@aspergers2mom was good 2 network & connect with others & hopefully sow some seeds of great support systems.. grt 2 see ur voice on #gtchat |
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1:13 am
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jsloan1223:
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Apparently I have just missed the end of the #gtchat. Need to logon the big screen to see what I missed! |
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1:16 am
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giftedmum:
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RT @CathRiordan: @giftedmum Upside down Brilliance: http://www.visualspatial.org/udb.htm #gtchat |
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1:19 am
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BrendonWalker:
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Spent about 2 minutes in #gtchat this morning and got fired up instantly. Call it passion? ;) |
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1:26 am
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DeborahMersino:
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just saw the galleys for my Twitter & #Gifted Ed feature in Parenting High Potential - so psyched! Fabulous design. #gtchat |
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1:27 am
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RobynOHSH:
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Congrats! RT @DeborahMersino: just saw the galleys for my Twitter & #Gifted Ed feature in Parenting High Potential - so psyched! #gtchat |
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1:30 am
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deepwaterscoach:
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Woot! RT @DeborahMersino: just saw the galleys 4 my Twitter & #Gifted Ed feature in Parenting High Potential - so psyched! #gtchat |
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1:41 am
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MyWiredStyle:
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RT @KTVee too many gifted kids sink into the depths of the public school systems when one hand could pull them out and save them #gtchat |
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1:44 am
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teachagiftedkid:
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Sorry I missed the #gtchat this evening. Working w/2E students can be challenging and rewarding. Teachers must use all support available. |
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1:45 am
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MyWiredStyle:
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RT @Jani_Oehlke #gtchat Very concerned about these children dropping out of school, mostly because I think they are misunderstood |
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1:46 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @teachagiftedkid: Sorry I missed the #gtchat this evening. Working w/2E students can be challenging and rewarding. Teachers must use all support available. |
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1:59 am
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jsloan1223:
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RT @BrendonWalker: Never give up fighting for your kids rights. They only ever have one chance to attain the best ed they can #gtchat |
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2:12 am
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laughingatchaos:
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Missed all of #gtchat, courtesy of a new modem/router. Can't wait to read transcripts of my passion, 2e! |
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3:10 am
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DeborahMersino:
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RT @GiftedHF RT @Michigan2E: Why Students with Dyslexia Need Accommodations for Standardized Tests http://bit.ly/9N3TfS #gtchat |
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3:11 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@deepwaterscoach and @RobynOHSH Appreciate your support. So grateful for the opportunity. Publication comes out in March! #gtchat |
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3:24 am
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jofrei:
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RT @DeborahMersino: RT @GiftedHF RT @Michigan2E: Why Students with Dyslexia Need Accommodations for Standardized Tests http://bit.ly/9N3TfS #gtchat |
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3:43 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Testing transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat http://bit.ly/9urU00 |
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3:46 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Transcript from 02.06.10 noon/EST "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 #gifted |
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3:48 am
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DeborahMersino:
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I'm still determining the best way to capture our #gtchat sessions/transcripts. Working on being able to edit (earlier posts). |
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3:49 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Good news is the #gtchat transcript links are live & in sequential order. Let me know what you think. We'll find the right format. TY! |
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3:51 am
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DeborahMersino:
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A few notes: I'm trying out wthashtag.com/gtchat. Noon transcript starts earlier than I wanted...scroll down a bit to find start. #gtchat. |
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3:54 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Note: Lastly, transcripts show Pacific time. Hope to change that eventually. TY all for your patience & participation! #gtchat #gifted |
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3:59 am
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giftedmum:
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@jofrei http://www.giftedresources.org/ great blog & site... thanks no doubt I will become a frequent reader.... #Gtchat |
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5:06 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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5:08 am
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wggifted:
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RT @DeborahMersino Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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5:09 am
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DeborahMersino:
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Transcript from 02.06.10 "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat at noon/EST http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 #gifted |
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5:10 am
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wggifted:
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RT @DeborahMersino Transcript from 02.06.10 "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat at noon/EST http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 #gifted |
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5:12 am
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DeborahMersino:
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@Doublelattemama - Sweet dreams! TY again for being the inspiration behind #gtchat. |
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5:15 am
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Doublelattemama:
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@DeborahMersino you're so very welcome. i look forward to going through the transcripts some day very soon! :-) #gtchat |
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7:30 am
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Idaho2e:
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#gtchat Also sorry I missed the gt/2e chat...just fell off my radar screen Darn--this is such an important subject... |
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9:56 am
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clairehennessy:
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Missed #gtchat last night again, darn! Mind you, was preparing #gifted class for today, so brownie points for that? ;) |
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2:10 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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Yes! RT @clairehennessy Missed #gtchat last night again, darn! Mind you was preparing #gifted class for today so brownie points for that? ;) |
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2:10 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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Missed u! RT @Idaho2e #gtchat Also sorry I missed the gt/2e chat...just fell off my radar screen Darn--this is such an important subject... |
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2:11 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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@clairehennessy and @Idaho2E - Here's the transcript from the 2E #gtchat session: http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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3:12 pm
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Jenniferkolari:
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Thx for this! RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript from 02.06.10 "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat at noon http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 #gifted |
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3:12 pm
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AudreyFG:
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Thx for this! RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript from 02.06.10 "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat at noon http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 #gifted |
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3:13 pm
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AudreyFG:
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And thx for this!! RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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3:13 pm
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Jenniferkolari:
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And thx for this!! RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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3:14 pm
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mygiftedgirl:
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RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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3:27 pm
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dididrama:
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@DeborahMersino @CathRiordan Hope last night's #gtchat went well. I'm gonna have a look through the transcript now for juicy links! |
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4:32 pm
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Giftedkidsie:
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Thanks!!! RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript from 02.06.10 "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat at noon/EST http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 #gifted |
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4:42 pm
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armadillosoft:
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"I am not obliged to fail...Failing is extremely difficult." Video RT @rmkoske RT @Discardia http://bit.ly/a0Pr8m #gifted #gtchat |
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5:28 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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@Jenniferkolari @AudreyFG and @Giftedkidsie - I greatly appreciate your RTs of the transcripts. We missed you. Lively sessions! #gtchat |
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5:29 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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@dididrama - Yes, participants shared so many helpful resources/links! Enjoy. #gtchat |
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5:44 pm
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Giftedkidsie:
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@DeborahMersino There's some great stuff coming out of these sessions! We incl the trans link on our forum for parents & teachers. #gtchat |
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6:15 pm
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ByrdseedGifted:
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RT @mygiftedgirl: RT @DeborahMersino: Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted |
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7:13 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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@Jeff_shoemaker: Transcript from 02.06.10 "Asynchronous Development" global #gtchat at noon http://bit.ly/b6Z6Z3 |
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7:14 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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@Jeff_shoemaker Transcript of 02.06.10 "Twice Exceptional" global #gtchat at 7pm/EST http://bit.ly/9urU00 #gifted {missed you!} |
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8:11 pm
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DeborahMersino:
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New Ingeniosus Blog post regarding #gtchat sessions: http://bit.ly/P1Z1N #gifted |
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8:29 pm
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gifts2love:
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RT @DeborahMersino: New Ingeniosus Blog post regarding #gtchat sessions: http://bit.ly/P1Z1N #gifted |
